Queen Elizabeth II is Direct Lineage of the Roman Caesars by blood! (Proven Fact)

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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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The other night my wife and I were attempting to look up our family
history, but because we are apparently poor serfs we couldn't find
anything. So we went and looked up the lineage of the Queen just for fun
and were blown away by what we discovered.

We found out that the Queen's direct blood line goes all the way back to
the Imperial Line of the Caesars (and potentially much further back than
that). My question is why haven't I ever heard anyone tell me about this
before? I have been researching conspiracies, history, and all things weird
for a very long time, and never heard about this in a direct specific
manner.

Here is a link that shows five routes of lineage from Queen Elizabeth II to
Julia Caesar, the sister of Julius.
Julia to Elizabeth
Here is a helpful family tree diagram that covers a large portion of the
lineage that goes back to Charlemagne.
German family tree

But this isn't how I discovered this information originally, I came across
all of this entirely randomly by complete coincidence by browsing through
wikipedia, I will show exactly how this occurred.

Elizabeth II's father
was George VI, whose father was
George
V
, whose father was Edward
VII
, whose father was Victoria's husband
Prince Albert
, whose father was Duke Ernest I, whose father was
Duke Francis, whose father was
Duke Ernest Frederick, whose father was Francis Josias, whose father was John Ernest IV, whose father is
Ernest I, whose father is
John II (Johann), whose father is
John William, whose father is
John Frederick I, whose father was
John, whose father was
Ernst,
whose father was Frederick II, whose father was Frederick I, whose father was Frederick III, whose father was Frederick II, whose father was Frederick I,
whose father was Albert II,
whose father was Henry III,
whose father was Theodoric I, whose father was Otto II, whose father was
Conrad the Great,
whose father was Thimo, whose father was
Dietrich II, whose father was
Dedo I, whose father was Dietrich I von Wettin.

Now I ran into a dead end here, as you can see by reading the Wiki, but I
was on the Right Track because it says this:

Dietrich (ca. 916 – ca. 976), also known as Thierry I of Liesgau, is
considered the oldest traceable member of the House of Wettin who is known
for certain. In genealogy, this makes him the top ancestor of various
present-day nobles, including Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom,
King Albert II of Belgium and Simeon II of Bulgaria.


Somehow the night I first looked at this with my wife, we found a
connection from Wettin to the main German royalty line through the house of
Billung. However I forgot how and lost the links to this, and then had to
backtrack all of the way back to Albert the Degenerate's wife,
Margaret of
Sicily
. Now I am back on track.

Margaret of Sicily's father was
Frederick II HRE, whose father was
Henry VI HRE, whose father was
Frederick I HRE, whose father was
Frederick II, whose father was
Frederick I, who married
Agnes of Germany, the daughter of
Henry IV HRE. whose father was
Henry III HRE, whose father was
Conrad II HRE, whose father was
Henry of Speyer, whose father was
Otto von Worms,
whose mother was Liutgarde, whose father was Otto I HRE, whose father was
Henry I the Fowler, whose mother was
Hedwiga, whose mother was
Ingeltrude, whose mother was
Gisela, whose father was
Louis the Pious, whose father was
Charlemagne, whose father was Pepin the Short, whose father was
Charles Martel,
whose mother was Alpaida.

This is where the Wiki trail ends, but with a little google research I
found a genealogy chart where Alpaida's family is listed.
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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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She is listed as Elphide (Chalpaida) in this source, but if you check her son, it's Charles Martel. If you check her father however,
Childebrand, it's a dead end again. So back to her page, now check Pepin II, his
father was Ansigise Meroving. His mother was
Clothilde, whose father was
Arnoldus XXVII, whose father was
Ausburtus,
whose father was Ferrolus Auvergne, whose father was Sigimerus I, whose father was Clodius "Long Haired", whose father was
Pharamond, whose father was Marcomir I, whose father was
Clodius of the Franks, whose father was
Dagobert, whose father was
Genebald,
whose father was Dagobert of the Franks, whose father was Walter, whose father was Clodius III, whose father was
Bartherus,
whose father was Hilderic,
whose father was Sunno, whose father
was Farabert,
whose father was Clodimir IV,
whose mother was Althildis,
whose father was "Old King" Coel, whose father was
Marius King of Britain,
whose mother was Venus Julia
Claudius
, whose father was Tiberius
Claudius Caesar Brittanicus
, whose father was Roman Emperor Claudius.

Now I have found some slight errors or mistakes in the Roman Emperor's
family tree, so it can become really confusing. Here is a link to a very
incomplete family tree:
Complete
mess of Roman royalty

Notice that Claudius's son Tiberius Claudius Brittanicus is missing.
However I believe I have filled those gaps in this search.

Also notice that Marius's spouse was the daughter of Boadicea.
Boadicea is very famous
please read up on her historical significance.

Now if you go back to the other website, and go to Boadicea and go back
several more generations you will end up at a person named
"Aed Mawr, which is the
furthest back I can trace in this particular direction. His son was named
"Aedd Prydain (Brydain)" which is supposedly where the name "Britain" came
from. (?)

I did a google search on this Aedd Mawr character and this is what I came
up with:
Aedd
Mawr Pedigree


Please take 10 minutes and read through that Pedigree, there are some
bizarre findings within it. I am sure you will find some explosive claims
within that will blow your mind.

So I then checked out "Where is this source from?", it is listed as ""Magna
Charta" ["MC"], by John S. Wurts (1942), page 158; with commentary by David
Hughes". I wondered what is the "Magna Charta? I have heard of the Magna
Carta but what is this strange spelling??" --- What I found made my jaw
drop.

I did a search and found this:
Baronial Order of Magna Charta


The Baronial Order of Magna Charta (BOMC) was founded in 1898 as The
Baronial Order of Runnemede during the flowering of scholarly and popular
interest in the history and development of the Anglo-Saxon people that
characterized the final decades of Queen Victoria’s reign. For over a
century BOMC has been a leading proponent organization whose purpose is the
promulgation and support of the principles set forth in that
world-pervasive document — the Magna Charta.


Ok this is really odd? So keep reading.


The Order has been incorporated in the State of Pennsylvania as a
non-profit corporation since 1945, and is also registered with the IRS as a
501(c)(3) tax exempt organization. Individuals of good character who can
prove descent from one or more of the 25 Sureties who were responsible for
holding King John to the terms of the Great Charter he signed on 15 June
1215 at Runnymede meadow in England and five counselors of the King who
were in sympathy with the Magna Charta will be considered for
membership.



What are the 25 Sureties? Read the wiki on
Surities

Let's skip ahead a bit. Check this part out:

The Magna Charta resulted from the peace made between King John of
England and about sixty of his rebelling barons. After preliminary
negotiations with Archbishop of Canterbury Stephen Langton as go-between,
John and his party met the barons on 15 June at Runnymede meadow next to
the Thames River. After several days of discussions, the document language
was finally agreed upon, and on 19 June the barons elected 25 of their
number as “Sureties” to hold title to certain of the king’s properties,
including the Tower of London, in order to guarantee his compliance with
the laws and liberties expounded in the Magna Charta.


Essentially the nobility held all of this wealth and property over the King
and forced him to comply with this "Compact" (Treaty - not a Contract).
They controlled the Tower
of London
, which is apparently where the British money was minted
through history among various other important things.


Wiki Magna Carta
Look at this wiki closely - it says clearly how this system works.


The 1215 Charter required King John of England to proclaim certain
liberties, and accept that his will was not arbitrary, for example by
explicitly accepting that no "freeman" (in the sense of
non-serf
)
could be punished except through the law of the land, a
right which is still in existence today.


That's why they are "freemen" and have protections to their rights and we
are "serfs" and lack many of these protections. It's written right there.
Just look around that website some and you will be perplexed and blown away
as I was probably.
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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Now, connect this to the US Constitution, here is the full
text. It says clearly in
capitalized words "People" and "Posterity". That applies to the nobility
because the King was not adhering to the compact agreed to in the Magna
Charta apparently, so that is why these nobles created this document. I do
not think it exactly applies to us, the serfs however. Read closely:


We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more
perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for
the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings
of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the United States of America.


Although this is really getting off track, keep in mind that George Washington (and others) ARE connected directly to this line of nobility by blood that connects to the Queen and the Roman Caesars! Just dig into this
and you will keep finding amazing truths at every turn.

This thread has taken me 2+ days to create as I had to conduct over
30+hours of mind bending research. Every two or three steps in the family
trees they switch the names up to make it even more difficult to keep on
track, and they twist things around a bit and use the same few names over
and over and it gets REALLY hard to conceptualize. I had so many headaches
trying to put this together! I am finally glad I have completed this so
far.

I will provide some additional links I would like you folks to look over
just as bonus resources that can aid in getting a grip on all of this
stuff.

These Houses of Royalty are all related, they just use different names.
House of Hannover
House of Windsor
BTW : Windsor is a fake name created because the British hated the Germans
and the royals named
House of
Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
sounded too Germanic.
House of Wettin

Merovingian
Dynasty


Franks

Carolingian
Empire


Holy Roman Empire
Now you know why it's called the Holy Roman Empire - because it's direct
descent of the Roman Caesars!
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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Further supplemental side-reading of interest:
Seneca the
Younger

Seneca the Elder
Seneca the Younger was a wealthy Roman financier and even was the tutor of
Nero. It's just a great example of how "banking" was powerful and important
during this time period as well. The "financiers" would work to undermine
governors or kings in nearby lands and use the wealth to topple many of
them. His father was from a very wealthy Roman family. They were
Equestrians.


The Roman equestrian order (Latin: ordo equester) constituted the lower
of the two aristocratic classes of ancient Rome, ranking below the
patricians (patricii), a hereditary caste that monopolised political power
during the regal era (to 501 BC) and during the early Republic (to 338
BC).


Check out the story about this guy,
Catus Decianus.

Catus Decianus was the procurator of Roman Britain in AD 60 or 61.
Tacitus blames his "rapacity" in part for provoking the rebellion of
Boudica.[1] Cassius Dio says he confiscated sums of money which had been
given by the emperor Claudius to leading Britons, declaring them to be
loans to be repaid with interest.[2]


And his successor
Gaius
Julius Alpinus Classicianus
.
Polyclitus
(freedman)
and the story of
Aulus Caecina
Alienus

As well as the history of the
Fourth Macedonian
Legion


This is only scratching the surface of what is really there. Why hasn't
anyone ever told us that the Queen was a direct royal blood descendant of
the Roman Caesars? It's all out in the open if you are willing to struggle
with the insane spider web that exists. I really cannot believe I wasn't
taught any of this in school. I feel like I have been deceived.
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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:22 PM
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Excellent work and thanks for sharing.

At the end of the day the Royals are basically foreigners who murdered, lied and stole to get to the top. Not one single one of the various Royal families of Europe is descended from anyone that you would chose as a friend.

They should all be introduced to Madame La Guillotine in due course of time.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:26 PM
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Okay, this is a lot of reading for me to do... I'm going to have to lock myself in and get to it. Good work muzzleflash, it looks like you've put a lot of work into this....



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:28 PM
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Awesome post.
Star & Flag for you.

This is interesting. Also interesting that many American Presidents can trace their lineage back to british royalty and to eleanor of aquitain.

www.shilohouse.org...

I'm sure some of our Presidents can also trace back to roman emperors.
Makes you wonder if there is some sort of ruling class gene in us.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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I've heard David Icke and various other conspiracy personalities talk about this before.

Anyway, excellent work, very dedicated, now we've got a place to look it up without buying any book.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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Can it be connected to Egyptian Pharaohs?



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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I'm not clear on how you get from Dietrich von Wettin to Margaret of Sicily...?



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by satron
Can it be connected to Egyptian Pharaohs?


Yes but my fingers are tired.

Perhaps that can be the next big project? I don't even know where to start though.

One interesting lead would be Cleopatra VII's connections to all of this. She was a member of the Ptolemaic Dynasty.

She was also married to Julius Caesar, so we have a direct connection here between the Greek royalty descendant from Alexander the Great's time, and the Roman connections.

This would be the direction I would head into at least to test it out and find where it leads. It looks quite daunting though!



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
I'm not clear on how you get from Dietrich von Wettin to Margaret of Sicily...?


Reread what I posted.

I got stuck in a dead end at Dietrich , and had to backtrack to Albert the Degenerate, to whom Margaret of Sicily was married.

However I did find a route from Dietrich to the German dynasty through the House of Billung but I totally forgot which way I went and it became very difficult to find it again, so instead I relied on the old "they are all inbreds" and backtracked successfully finding the links I needed to get back on track to the Caesars.
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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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Very well done thread.Reminds me of the protoplasmlctraveler thread"all roads lead to Rome.And i tend to agree we are modern serfs and the elites/celebrities being the nobles who the law doesnt apply.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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I believe you have discovered how to find out who the next potis of your country will be.

Or how many of the candidates are from the same blood line and how picking any of them will just keep the same wheel spinning.

You should do one on DR.RP and see if he is who he really is and not a plant for the people.

Good thread OP *s and flags for you.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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Does America belong to England?
Is America a Company or a Country?
Because the Roman connection can America be another Roman Empire?



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by LookSkywatcher
Does America belong to England?
Is America a Company or a Country?
Because the Roman connection can America be another Roman Empire?


Well look at our government architecture. It's all Roman style , and it utilizes Roman Numerals and Latin writing.
Pretty obvious if you ask me.

Also read this link to help answer your question about if "America" is a Company.

Virginia Company
London Company

Here is the original text of the Charter
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Also, it may be interesting to review these sets of links:
British Colonization of the Americas

Spanish Colonization of the Americas

Dutch Colonization of the Americas

French Colonization of the Americas

Portuguese Colonization of the Americas

Also interesting side-reading of importance to colonization on the other side of the globe:

Dutch East India Company 1602
British East India Company 1600
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posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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Thanks for all the hard work you put in.

Keep us updated please.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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All Roads Lead to Rome
This is a great read, by Protoplasmic Traveler.
Great job, Muzzleflash putting this thread together.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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The question is: why wouldn't they want us to know this?

Descending from Caesar sounds a lot better than descending from a bunch of Germans.



posted on Nov, 25 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by grey580
Awesome post.
Star & Flag for you.

This is interesting. Also interesting that many American Presidents can trace their lineage back to british royalty and to eleanor of aquitain.

www.shilohouse.org...

I'm sure some of our Presidents can also trace back to roman emperors.
Makes you wonder if there is some sort of ruling class gene in us.


That is an epic link you posted. It would serve as a wonderful starting place to start connecting more dots and pull even more of this all together.





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