Veterans with AR15s protecting Occupy Phoenix

Originally posted by bacci0909
Impressive. "JT" really knows his stuff. It's pretty annoying that the guy with the camera keeps assuming he's telling him things he doesn't already know

Did you miss these parts of the thread...?

JT is a bottom feeder.

Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
Is this the same guy in the video?

J.T. Ready

Ideology:
Neo-Nazi
J.T. (Jason Todd) Ready, a former member of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement, specializes in bashing immigrants. After being court-martialed twice, Ready was discharged from the Marines for bad conduct in 1996. Ready, who has run for various Arizona offices usually without success, advocates for the placement of landmines on the border and rails against Jews and nonwhites. In June 2010, Ready led a group of armed extremists into the Arizona desert to apprehend immigrants and drug smugglers.

Criminal History
In 1992, Ready was arrested for damage to property and aggravated assault with a weapon. He accepted a plea bargain and was convicted of assault. Ready had been with a friend who destroyed a car mirror with a baseball bat.

In 1996, while serving in the Marine Corps as a lance corporal, Ready was court-martialed twice. The first time, after being absent for eight days without authorization, he was convicted of unauthorized absence, failing to follow an order or regulation, and larceny and wrongful appropriation. He was convicted, demoted to private and jailed for three months. Later that year, Ready was court-martialed again for conspiracy, assault, and wrongful solicitation and advice. He was found guilty, spent six months in detention, and was discharged from the Marine Corps for bad conduct.

In 2007, Ready was pulled over for driving a vehicle with a fake license plate. He was carrying a 9mm Beretta handgun at the time. Ready was arrested and charged for possessing a traffic preemption emitter, which is an illegal device that can change traffic lights from red to green.

J.T. Ready

Originally posted by NoNameBrand
reply to post by Drunkenparrot

 

You literally beat me to posting this by less than a minute. After even a quick search there is a lot of info on this guy. Do people not do research themselves anymore?

just listen to some guy on a YT video like it is gospel???

And they call us sheeple!

Originally posted by jibeho

 

Thank You! No need for me to comment further as to the motivations of this guys group. I love the second amendment. However, this issue is not even on the agenda of the Occupy crowd even though this goon says he is there to protect it. Just another useful idiot hopping on the band wagon to get a little face time.

Originally posted by jibeho
more on jt ready the Neo Nazi

tucsoncitizen.com...

www.azcentral.com...

and more
blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com...

So, Ready is a NeoNazi with an agenda and an axe to grind. Let's hope he never crosses my path.

Sidenote. The American Nazi Party has endorsed the Occupy Movement.

Why not a video too

another glowing endorsement for the occupy crowd. If they were smart they would ask him to leave.

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Just a reminder. You can unflag threads. Just like this one.

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Originally posted by Drunkenparrot

Originally posted by muzzleflash
reply to post by Drunkenparrot

 

The Southern Poverty Law Center is NOT a trustworthy source! They always skew things and push an agenda.

I noticed your hit-piece on that guy has NO CITATIONS.

It's all essentially gossip until some sort of sourcing can be established to verify it's authenticity.

I could say you are a Neo-Nazi on the Internet, and guess what? My hit piece wouldn't have any citations either!

So it's bunk unless there is proof.

Google is your friend...

You were saying?

Ah, here comes the socialist-corporate-zionist commenter-for-hire comments which will try to present you what a bad evil Nazi world will be if people will stand up for their freedom. They tried the very same in my country. They called us as Nazis too back in 2006 when we started to clean out the zionists and other corporate communists. Now they'll try to do the same in yours and will tell you this via CNN and other places. This is a perfect example. People standing up for their freedom, protecing their fellow citizens from the tyranny and the spineless cowards here at ATS, paid disinfo agents whose parents never taught them any moral values, immediately starting to use the Nazi card.

Don't be fooled by this "Nazis are under our bed" tactics. People standing up for their freedom. Do the same if you want to life free.

In the UK we used to have an unspoken rule - the police don't carry guns so criminals don't shoot them. Our police were respected bobbies because they walked the beat alone with only a truncheon for worst case scenarios. They had to have a certain height, which when combined with the huge helmet on their heads and their usual ex-army background (plus boxing as a hobby), made them extremely imposing. I grew up in a rough market town which had one old bobby who had to clear out the pubs on a friday and saturday night on his own. He loved a good punch up and was a well-respected bloke for it.
Then came the third-world immigrants. The old boy gangster has gone, along with the rules of the trade, and in their place we have 14 year olds shooting each other and the police. So now the police carry machine guns and the law-abiding public have been completely disarmed.
I remember the good old days when you ddin't even need ID and you could state your name as Mickey Mouse if you wanted. You'd probably get a kicking for doing so but it was your right as a British subject.
The police are there to protect the peace. Pointing guns at them is so utterly stupid that I can't find the words for it. But, then again, the UK isn't America. It just wouldn't be cricket.

One other huge difference between the US and UK is that the British army swears allegiance to the Queen and her family. And they are trained to obey orders without question. Which side do you think they'd take if the protests turned ugly?

It is the usurper Obama who is wanting the protests to continue and grow , and is probably waiting to declare martial law until closer to the election , as a desperate move to hold on to his occupation of the White House ,to further his Socialist destruction of our country. We the people will no longer take his fraud that has been committed by him and his supporters against the constitution , and what the framers of the constitution intended, and what history and the records prove, he was illegally elected, and is an impostor and a fraud. Yes change is coming and in a big way.

reply to post by dpage


The easiest way to implement Martial Law would be to get such a group of gun-toting loonies to appear at a rally and shoot at the police. Repeat in several different cities, using only a handful of armed nutters in each, and POTUS will have no problem whatsoever filling the seats on the FEMA trains.
Ma and Pa Pigbelly, Arkansas will even see him as the saviour of the American way.

reply to post by Aestheteka

And another example to spread fear if you stand up for your freedom. If the Nazi card won't work, they'll tell you if you do this, Martial Law will be the answer.

Originally posted by DAZ21
Wow if that was the UK they would be shot on the spot.

That is precisely why we removed ourselves from your control in the first place. Since then our rights have been undermined little by little. Now people are realizing if they don't take back their country and hold corrupt traitors accountable for high treason the last of our rights will be taken away and we will be no better off than the UK.

BTW, for those who do not know, high treason is punishable by death/firing squad. In the military this punishment can be dealt to a person who falls asleep on watch so giving guns to drug dealers in another country should be a no brainer. I would not want to be a corrupt politician/banker/wall streeter/public servant when tshtf.

I'd like to see this in Oakland.

The man on this day is a good man and that counts far more than his past.

We are what we are now, not yesterday.

Today he is not ugly.

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst


You misunderstood my post my friend. Violence versus the most violent group of people to ever inhabit the earth (government) is not the answer. I believe in weapons as a mode of self defense.

I like to see this because they are exercising their rights even though they are unpopular. It is a natural right to defend yourself using the same implements as other human beings.

I believe the answer is non-compliance, as my signature suggests, not shooting, and not protest, even.

ETA: Also, in the state of Arizona, you do not need any kind of license to carry a gun, except fully automatic, be it a rifle, shotgun, or handgun, concealed or open.

ETA II: And I despise the NRA as well. They "protect" the 2nd ammendment by compromise. Compromises are just baby steps to losing a right.

reply to post by Blundo


Terrifying? Hardly. This is Arizona. Everyone and their dog has a gun here in Arizona. You can even bring a gun into a bar in Arizona. Seriously.

I don't own one, but I am in the minority in this state. I fully support the 2nd amendment, though.

When only the government is allowed to have guns, that is when you have to worry.

reply to post by Master_007


Ahhh, the ignorance that fills America. Yes, fight terror with more terror. Using force to assert your beliefs has worked for this country so far. Oh wait, it hasn't. Pleas, stay the # out of any movements in the United States. People like you are what is going to take something great and turn it into a tragedy.


Also, this video is NOT good. This is a blatant show of force by moronic rednecks that will only put police on more edge. These need to be kept peaceful and show that Americans will make a stand without the use of brute tactics like the people who run this country do. If you think this is some hippy dippy #, go ask all the Pakistani and Iraqis how much they like seeing our people their murdering innocent women and children. If that happens here, it'd be devastating. Americans need to wake up and realize because you can have power of some sort, doesn't mean you need to excersize it in brute ways. Being man isn't murdering or harming someone Being a man is standing up and saying enough is enough and trying to do it with humility. Weapons only show cowardice. The ability to talk and make a point and bring change is a true weapon.

An awful lot of comments for such a low view count.

Originally posted by crohny
reply to post by Master_007

 

Ahhh, the ignorance that fills America. Yes, fight terror with more terror. Using force to assert your beliefs has worked for this country so far. Oh wait, it hasn't. Pleas, stay the # out of any movements in the United States. People like you are what is going to take something great and turn it into a tragedy.


Also, this video is NOT good. This is a blatant show of force by moronic rednecks that will only put police on more edge. These need to be kept peaceful and show that Americans will make a stand without the use of brute tactics like the people who run this country do. If you think this is some hippy dippy #, go ask all the Pakistani and Iraqis how much they like seeing our people their murdering innocent women and children. If that happens here, it'd be devastating. Americans need to wake up and realize because you can have power of some sort, doesn't mean you need to excersize it in brute ways. Being man isn't murdering or harming someone Being a man is standing up and saying enough is enough and trying to do it with humility. Weapons only show cowardice. The ability to talk and make a point and bring change is a true weapon.

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How is bearing arms using force? I didn't see any rounds going down range. These people are exercising their 2nd amendment rights just as the protesters are exercising their 1st. You can't pick and choose which Amendments that you support, its all or none.

This should happen at all Occupies immediately. It might make the movement go somewhere before the inevitable false flag shows up.

reply to post by Drunkenparrot


Having received a BCD (Bad Conduct Discharge) from the Marines, this "vet" doesn't qualify as such, just by existing he is a detriment to the image of the Corps and the military in general.

But...it doesn't make him a felon, neither does possession of a traffic preemption emitter. If he is a felon, I missed the felony charges he was found guilty of..

Originally posted by muzzleflash
reply to post by Drunkenparrot

 

The Southern Poverty Law Center is NOT a trustworthy source! They always skew things and push an agenda.

I noticed your hit-piece on that guy has NO CITATIONS.

It's all essentially gossip until some sort of sourcing can be established to verify it's authenticity.

I could say you are a Neo-Nazi on the Internet, and guess what? My hit piece wouldn't have any citations either!

So it's bunk unless there is proof.

Proof 1

Proof 2

Just google him, there is plenty more.

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst


The ironic part of your post is that the armed "vets" that showed up are fascists.

Or is there a different term you would rather be used for neo-Nazis?

Just what peaceful protestors need, a guy with a gun. Great way to get some innocent people hurt or killed. Peaceful protestors don't need weapons. I wonder if Gandhi was packin' heat while hunger striking.

Originally posted by FrontRunner
reply to post by Blundo

 

How long will it be until the United States Army is brought in. Even though they might not wish to obey such orders they are obligated to do so.

No, they are not obligated to obey such orders, the U.S. Military is only required to obey lawful orders, those orders which support the oaths they swore.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

These protests are clearly being taken over by people who have no business being there. All the trouble will come after the thugs show up. I've been down this road before. Once the thugs show all you can do is walk away.

Would you please post references to your claim that these protests have been taken over by violent thugs? I am not talking about the occasional rock thrower, I mean "violent thugs". And why would these particular people as viewed in the video of the op have "no business being there"? As stated on the video they are residents of Arizona, and the United States. They are expressing themselves in a legal format in a venue of protest. They are bearing arms openly, not concealed, as protected by law.

Also, in the said video, there was no open animosity, the police officers did not appear the least bit threatened. There was no apparent tension. Each side, for lack of a better term, appeared to be respecting the presence of the other. No one was aiming weapons at each other, at least on film.

I ask this because I want to know, not being a smart aleck. The only violence that I have seen was on the actions of the officers at the scene of some of the other protests, via tear gas, rubber bullets, sound cannons, batons etc. Granted it was non lethal, for the most part, but forceful none the less.

What I have seen on the side of the protesters, is vocal abuse (1st Amendment), refusing to leave the area when told (civil disobedience), and littering. I have seen isolated incidents of thrown items (which can be assault if it strikes an officer) including paint, and resisting arrest (standing, sitting, pushing back [which can also be assault])

If you have proof of actual violence, ie: striking an officer, destroying public or private property, fighting amongst themselves or non protest persons, reckless discharge of weapons, I would very much like to see the references. BT