Veterans with AR15s protecting Occupy Phoenix

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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by LDragonFire

Originally posted by crohny
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And you suggest we do this how? By lethal force? go find a country that has implemented lethal force to over throw a government and isnt still in turmoil. That's ok, I'll wait.


The United States, France just to name two.


This was why I couldn't take him seriously. Umm... I'm typing from there?




posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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I edited into the post above in the meantime. There is a reference. But here it is again.

www.reuters.com...

These guys are not Nazis, regardless how Reuters and CNN claims. These guys are similar to your National Guard. And as far as I see CNN removed all the articles regarding October 23, 2006 and Reuters also removed everything prior 2007. And our dear ex-PM is now under investigation for terrorism what he committed against our people.
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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For some reason I was expecting you to show me people being slaughtered left and right. I see injuries but no deaths. All the recorded information about those movements never mentions any deaths. Though I feel your pain and understand 100 percent of what you went through, what you have shown isn't on the level of what some people are saying should happen. I commend you on your efforts, but sadly your people seem to be a bit more level headed and didn't resort to hanging and disemboweling the criminals. Sadly, the intentions of some Americans is just that. I wont lie, I in a sense would love to do harm or see harm done to oppressors, but in reality that is just more of a reason for them to attack us. I don't want to add to the problem. I want to take away from it. Humility is key and some Americans are leaving it for immorality.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:36 AM
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You see no death, because this is what even our terror Government couldn't achieve. Hungarian won't kill a Hungarian. Even when the police forces were surrounded, we gave them a safe passage to leave unharmed. Maybe the riots of Hungary were the only ones which were damned brutal but no death has ever occured. Regarding the police brutality, regarding the strong resistance, we always remained relatively civilized. We simply just beat the crap out of each other, police and freedom fighter alike.
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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Really, the US isn't in turmoil? Hmmmmm... The Occupy wall st movement doesn't show there is back lash from how this country has been handled? Amusing. Also the US has a good heap of occupations and wars in other countries right now along with funding terrorism of our own. That isn't a form of turmoil? Strange. France is on a nice route to destroying public finances to try and bolster their economy. They are one of the few right now in EU that are doing ok, but it's only a matter of time. Only two countries are all you can come up with?
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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So in all fairness, even with the beating the # out of one another, it was rather civil compared to Pakistan, Libia, Rwanda, and so on and so forth. So even though you were painted as "Nazis" that didn't matter because you didn't withdraw into acts of immoral and barbaric nature.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by Sentinel412

Originally posted by jibeho
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I was here in 2006 www.clevelandpeople.com... and I don't recall the media portraying any Hungarian as a Nazi. Please reference what you are referring to.

This was in Budapest, Hungary, not in the United States. And here is a reference...

www.reuters.com...

These guys are not Nazis, regardless how Reuters and CNN claims. These guys are similar to your National Guard. And as far as I see CNN removed all the articles regarding October 23, 2006 and Reuters also removed everything prior 2007.
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Interesting! I wasn't aware of that in 2007. Incidentally, I am a descendent of the Roma. My family established roots in America in 1900 from Csorvás. THey were not welcome there.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by skepticconwatcher
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EXACTLY. That's what I thought of. All these gun toten types are always big fat and couldn't do combat with a gnat or they are so thin and frail you swear that rifle is bigger than they are.



Charlie wasn't big either.. And Charlie sent the u.s packing from vietnam back in '75 .. Never judge an opponant by size..

Interesting times indeed.. Must wonder though of all the groups there in the states why a group of neo-nazi's is first to step up to defend the protesters ?



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:47 AM
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I do not agree with the Socialist stand that many in the OWS movement have taken, however I support their right to protest peacefully. I have been and always be militia as defined by my states law. I applaud JT Ready and his guys over there in AZ. We more brave Americans standing up for the constitution. I am ready. Are you?



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Cool, I am on the opposite coast from you and typing from here too. Doesn't mean # isn't wrong here. People where on the internet twittering and posting on facebook in countries during movements. Of course governments shut their # down in some cases. Doesn't mean that can't happen here. good to know your brain works though. Don't take me seriously, but I'll out live you.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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I believe you may have already lost OWS in America Due to these elements. I only base this on the fact that if more of these groups follow suit and join OWS the confrontation will be inevitable and a lot sooner than it should come.OWS needs as much time before the confrontation happens to get as many on there side as possible this is shortened by these elements. So in brief we lose momentum and growing our numbers which is vital. Marshall law will be proclaimed alot sooner to and the message will die off bingo they have won. Stay peaceful as long as you can OWS in america. This in my opinion is why i am glad we don't carry guns in UK.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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How is caring a gun brave? Easy to pull a trigger and kill something. Far harder to use intelligence to make change. Your cowardice is showing and it reeks.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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good to see sound level thinking. But hey, lets go shoot # yall.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Our country is a peaceful country. Here, Hungarian, Jew, Roma are live in peace. Only the zionists are painting it to a rascist country, because we dare to kick them out anytime. Oh, and last time the Zionist business sector with the help of the U.S. Government tried to create a conflict here. It was around a year ago. They promised free refuge to Romas in the United States IF they're going to claim great rascism exists and Nazi people are living in our country.

This is reason we know how the media used to react and how the zionists work as we used to blow their lies and kick their ass day by day. And this is the reason I give advices to our fellow U.S. brothers and sisters who are now fighting against the very same narrow minded enemy, which is using the very same lies over and over again.
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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chrony you are trapped by the idea that you can deal with madmen rationally. You obviously don't accept the idea that they are heartless criminals bent on destruction of you, and all of us. I hope some day you'll realize the only reason they've used such baby gloves on the US population was our guns. Period. No peaceful protests kept them at bay. Sad truth. Hard truth.

If you can't understand why a man can't defend themselves using a weapon against someone trying to murder them, you lack basic survival instinct. Like so many these days, it seems.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:59 AM
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never thought id see events like this and or anything ACTUALLY pertaining to revoloution in my lifetime



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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Very impressive!

No police brutality that day.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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Yes our semi automatics kept them at bay when they have iron fragmentation bombs and drone planes. You're so right. Hahahaha

Oh, and there is defending yourself, and then there is going to a peaceful protest with assault rifles. Huge diference. No one is pointing a gun or smart bomb at you presently. Please, carry on and let me keep proving your ignorance.
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Calling someone a Nazi and being one are two different things. He claims he quit but hasn’t dropped the party line and includes the Nazis in his splitter group. The real Nazi party morphed themselves into a mainstream party in order to get elected. How many days did it take for them to switch back and take over the government once voted in?

I don’t believe Ready is a real Nazi threat. I think he is nothing more than a guy craving attention from any source. My best guess is he left the Nazi movement to be the leader of his own group and I’m guessing again but he probably wants his own realty show

He must have talked to the authorities in advance about bringing his weapons to the protest. I also doubt they were loaded. Did the video show whether his weapons were loaded? I lost interest when the interviewer starting handing out the literature that he doesn’t normally hand out. But I doubt the police would be so calm if they knew he is facing them with a loaded weapon.

Yes, he has the right to bear arms courtesy of the 2nd amendment. He may have the right to defend himself but in no way does it give him the right to use lethal force against the police if they are ordered to remove the protesters. Especially if the police are using rubber bullets, tear gas, water cannons, etc. Does anyone know if the occupy group asked for his protection? Or did he just show up and declare himself the protector of the people and their rights?

Regardless, it is simply irresponsible to bring weapons of any sort to a peaceful protest.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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good post. There is enough that says the dude is not fit to be at the protests. He has a clear history of absurdities and violence.





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