Veterans with AR15s protecting Occupy Phoenix

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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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The visual of these rednecks in camo with assault rifles isn't a positive image. The movement is about Wall St taking our money. Occupy Wall st is the name of the movement. Not Occupy the amendments. This here in lies one of the MAJOR problems with the movement. Every idiot who thinks they are some moral ideologist jumps into the mix to voice their opinion and be counter active. Americans will never make # happen.




posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
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So you are saying since they are both overweight white guys, they must be the same guy?

Sorry in the USA , there are tens of millions of overweight white guys with goatees.

Is there any actual identification of this guy?
Or is it just a photo you assume or wish were him?

They look kinda like different people to me.
At least 6 of my neighbors look just like that too.

There has to be a more conclusive positive ID.


The man in question ID's himself as J.T. of the US Border Guard. Mr. Jason Todd Ready.. A well known figure in Arizona. You are hilarious. I sent him an email asking for a copy of his DL. If it wasn't suspended for driving with fake license plates


From his own website with pictures of him wearing the same uniform at the SAME rally. Just a bunch of misfits who were "discharged" from service or to stupid to serve and make the cut.


America has been calling out for help to the deaf ears of the U.S. government.

J.T. Ready and his Border Rangers have answered that call...

usborderguard.com...

Come on, you're smarter than that to realize who this guy is. Just admit it or keep giving the Neo Nazi glowing praise. What more do you need to see?

As for those who keep flagging this thread.... Amazing. Read up on Jason Todd Ready. The man clings to any publicized movement to get publicity for himself. He used to show up at Tea Party Rallies also. Follow the cameras and you will find Him. He's like a dingleberry you can't wipe clean.

WTH... Deny ignorance!!
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:36 AM
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Anyone willing to keep a weapon between protesters and police is good by me. 2nd Amendment baby!



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Sentinel412
Ah, here comes the socialist-corporate-zionist commenter-for-hire comments which will try to present you what a bad evil Nazi world will be if people will stand up for their freedom. They tried the very same in my country. They called us as Nazis too back in 2006 when we started to clean out the zionists and other corporate communists. Now they'll try to do the same in yours and will tell you this via CNN and other places. This is a perfect example. People standing up for their freedom, protecing their fellow citizens from the tyranny and the spineless cowards here at ATS, paid disinfo agents whose parents never taught them any moral values, immediately starting to use the Nazi card.

Don't be fooled by this "Nazis are under our bed" tactics. People standing up for their freedom. Do the same if you want to life free.
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Whatever dude, I am a Navy veteran who does my own research into things, and this J.T. Ready is a neo-Nazi and I hope to never see people like him in a position of power or we will have to take another one down.

Call me a disinfo agent if you want, but this is the way it is.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:45 AM
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This thread is almost post after post of sure ignorance and an actual piece of evidence of Americas doom. Anyone being patriotic needs to call it quits. Your country you so wonderfully love and adore was founded on genocide. America is a terrorist nation. We support terrorist countries like Israel who have killed thousands of innocent Pakistanis. We have killed a # ton of innocent lives. We have waged war due to oil. Those are true war crimes that we haven't been prosecuted for. It is only a matter of time before the tables are turned on us. If you don't think it is possible you're inept and have no idea of the world around you.

The one moron who said history shows that violence is the only way to over throw a government and make a change has not at all paid attention to history. There are more than enough recent events that have shown countries being taken back by the people without violence. Do some #ing research. Instead of takinv the word of a bunch of nutters who feel Elenin is our doom, try looking up # that is actually based in reality. You will be surprised at the amount of knowledge you will gain that is actually worth knowing.

The thought of having to use any violence at these movements is absurdly barbaric. If our government decides to take that route and the marines and navy men who took an oath to fight for us begin to help enslave us then sure you can get uppity. Till then why not work on being actual adults and try and pretend like we aren't animals with a bloodlust. If you truly think having some Neo Nazi redneck with an AR15 at the rally is a good thing, get the # out of this country and go experience the world. See what genocide and true poverty is. Then come back and tell us what s going on here is worth taking up arms and causing other issues we do not need. Your cowardice is showing. You run and grab guns because you're too inept to think and find a logical way to cause change. Current times, like Israel where you have bombing and killing innocent people and stealing land left and right only causes desperation. Desperation that leads to children not wishing to live. That leads to suicide bombers. If you think being born into a war, and living with it very day will make you a happy mother #er, then by all means go over there and die.


If you want to make a change start doing research into peaceful ways of making change. It's not some moronic hippy #. It is the ONLY way to insure this countries freedoms. The American people can not stand up to a military force like the one our country has. If you think so you have no comprehension of the weapons they have. Look up Chris Hedges and see what he has to say. People like him who have seen the destruction of war from a different perspective, seen what it truly does to humanity and the world. He has a very real insight into it. There is so much # out there for you to get information from.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:49 AM
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There is one thing what you don't understand Mr. Navy. You guys are on the very same side in this war. If you're against the thief Government, you'll be painted as a Nazi by the media. How do I know? Because you Americans did the very same with my country's protesters back in 2006 and 2007. We were the very same peaceful protesters and you guys called us as Nazis every time, when we stood up against our liar government and demanded change. And your media did the very-very same with other protesters from different countries who stood up against this zion-fascist criminals. Now it's your turn, so now, you'll be painted as a Nazi.

Trust me, Mister. Since you've chosen to stand on the side of the protesters, you're a Nazi as well in the eyes of the media and the Government, regardless what you believe or what you think about Nazis. Officially, you're one just as the guy who is protecting the citizens in Phoenix. You're on the same side, you like it or not.


I hope to never see people like him in a position of power or we will have to take another one down.

Check your government. They're full of people like the ones you hate. Zionists are the greatest Nazis and your government is full of them.
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:54 AM
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All good and well. Too bad the other side isn't following those rules huh? Too bad we're dying from radiation, airborne, and food and water based poisons! Oh wait.

See they're killing you softly now, and you're ok with that as long as they don't go door to door.

Peaceful resistance to true tyranny is hopeless and a waste of valuable energy that could have been put towards ending the madness.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 07:58 AM
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It doesn't matter what the media portrays you as. It's what you're doing that matters. This movement has shown it self to be self sufficient. As long as we make it clear we want peaceful demonstrations that is all that matters. America is doomed. This economy down fall has no coming back from. Corporations know this. The government knows this. The US dollar is no longer a reserve currency. Any countries that invested in the US dollar are dumping as fast as they possibly can. America is on it's way to becoming a third world country. We shall reap the malicious benefits of our governments theft and pacifying of corporations and their illegal operations. Anyone who thinks there is any coming back from this economic downfall isn't doing their home work. This country is #ed and the government is now scrambling for a way out. It's going to get ugly but we need to be level headed. Sadly I do not feel it is possible with Americans. The mind frame is give me give me give me and not we need to work for this and do it with humility.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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And you suggest we do this how? By lethal force? go find a country that has implemented lethal force to over throw a government and isnt still in turmoil. That's ok, I'll wait.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:05 AM
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The Mad-Hatter and Co. psycho clowns in the Government will do everything to turn the peaceful protest to violent. Then they'll start to paint you in the media as they want (Usually Nazis as idiot, narrow minded zionists always use that card.). This is how they did in my country. They attacked us first, then we defended ourselves. But in the media they edited the attack backward; we attacked first and the police defended themselves. And of course we were called as Nazis by the media and your CNN as well. But as we had cameras in the mess and good internet connection, so we all turned their lies against them everywhere, via forums, via the internet. Truth hurts them the most. That's the only thing that with against they can't do anything. Use this for your advantage and use it wisely. This is the reason they want to shut down the internet so desperate. But don't count for peaceful demonstrations, because that won't last long. Take them down guys, or they'll take you down. There is no peaceful solution, and there is nothing in between.
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:09 AM
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And your country is what? Are you free? Is fighting back with violence helping you truly or giving them more of a reason to kill you?



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by crohny
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And you suggest we do this how? By lethal force? go find a country that has implemented lethal force to over throw a government and isnt still in turmoil. That's ok, I'll wait.


I suggest we're already doomed and can't understand it. I submit that we should have overthrown the government by force decades ago. I agree it wont do any good. I also would rather die on my feet, than on my knees. So bring on the doom. It's high time we sorted this out.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:15 AM
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My country is Hungary and yes, we're free. We kicked the commie-zionists out as we always did in our history. This is what happened in my country when your Government and your media portrayed us as Nazis. This is what for you'll have to count in the future. The only difference until this time, your police officers had police numbers on their helmet and they didn't had a mask to cover their coward faces.

And don't worry. Fighting is in our blood. No one was able to break the Hungarians. Not even the corporate-commie-socialist zionists. We're usually ahead of everyone in freedom fighting.


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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:17 AM
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Thank you for proving you're better off dead. Now, anyone of any intelligence care to chime in who understands the needs of this movement?



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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I was here in 2006 www.clevelandpeople.com... and I don't recall the media portraying any Hungarian as a Nazi. Please reference what you are referring to.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by crohny
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Thank you for proving you're better off dead. Now, anyone of any intelligence care to chime in who understands the needs of this movement?


That is a small minded dismissal of a serious topic. No surprises there.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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I was here in 2006 www.clevelandpeople.com... and I don't recall the media portraying any Hungarian as a Nazi. Please reference what you are referring to.

This was in Budapest, Hungary, not in the United States. And here is a reference...

www.reuters.com...

These guys are not Nazis, regardless how Reuters and CNN claims. These guys are similar to your National Guard. And as far as I see CNN removed all the articles regarding October 23, 2006 and Reuters also removed everything prior 2007.
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posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by crohny
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And you suggest we do this how? By lethal force? go find a country that has implemented lethal force to over throw a government and isnt still in turmoil. That's ok, I'll wait.


The United States, France just to name two.



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by DAZ21
Wow if that was the UK they would be shot on the spot.


Or NY my friend



posted on Oct, 28 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by Sentinel412

Originally posted by jibeho
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I was here in 2006 www.clevelandpeople.com... and I don't recall the media portraying any Hungarian as a Nazi. Please reference what you are referring to.

This was in Budapest, Hungary, not in the United States.


I know that. Trust Me. I still didn't hear any references that you are referring to. I am asking you to please back up your claim.

All that protesting in Budapest and Gyurcsány still remained in office for another 3 years despite his documentedd comments.





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