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Originally posted by UnlmtdPotential
The fact alone that it is (possibly) on the moon or mars makes it easier to keep secret. Look at how many people still go to area 51 where more than likely there is nothing there that may have once been. It's closed-"mindedness" like this that makes it easy to conceal things from the general public. No one will believe it if it sounds to wild or complex.
Originally posted by American Mad Man
there is a difference between having weapons in space orbiting the earth and having a prmanent base on the mars or moon. Space weaopns = good idea, Space Base on mars = financially irresponsable (at this point in time).
As far as a testing range, it would be the worst idea ever for weapons because the atmosphere and gravity would be diferent then that on earth, thus making most results irrelevent for illitary use on earth.
Originally posted by flycatch
Bases on the moon and mars, I think not.
there possible and are not an easy but not an impossible goal.
Antigravatational crafts built by humans, slim possibility.
why? you build a magnet powerful enough and it will float. its possible.
Use of these crafts in a war zone, not likley.
its the perfect place to test them. no one would know who fired the tow missile that took out a lone tank.
[edit on 31-8-2004 by devilwasp]
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
A U.S. Military Astronaut program I could believe. Spaceship one got into low orbit space for 25 million with a military funding you could do so much more. If you had space based weapon having your own Military Astronauts could have advantages over using NASA for this type of work.
Now if you think humans have procured Alien tech at some point in time then Bases on the Moon or Mars would be quite easy. If a craft could make it too earth from another planet a trip to Mars would be like a trip down the street.
For all the people that say they could never keep this a secret. If this is true they didnt keep the secret because we are reading about it on a website.
Originally posted by apw100
1. A $25million low orbit mission, and a $1 trillion mission to Mars are two different things entirely. Considering that the Mars mission is 40,000 times more expensive, I dont think anybody could keep that secret. Even if a couple of billion dollars a year could be syphoned off for such a black op, it would take 500 years to raise enough money just to send a few astronauts there... let alone build a base!
2. Alien tech. Um, ok. What about a magic broom that could transport us to Mars? Maybe a teleporting device? Even if we had alien technology, we probably wouldnt have the intellectual capacity to know what it was, let alone use it. It would be like teaching a mouse how to use a computer. Bottom line, there are a million things one could assume to convince oneself that a Martian base is possible. However, that is not an efficient or productive way of problem solving. With enough assumptions, anything is possible.
3. When I said that it was impossible to keep a operation such as that secret, I meant that it would be so obvious, that we would learn of it from reputable news sources.... not "aliendave.com"
[edit on 31-8-2004 by apw100]
Originally posted by apw100
Ok, at least we agree that there arent secret military bases on Mars! lol. Anyway, I agree that a military space station is within reason. Previous ideas for extraterrestrial bases were probably largely fueled by Cold War paranoia. Now that its over, we dont have the pressure that we once had. I still doubt that the military would have any lunar bases, as it probably would be of little tactical use.