Who are the 1%?

reply to post by Evolutionsend


That's cute.


I am an immigrant. I'm a poor dumb Hispanic immigrant who isn't smart enough to figure things out on my own.

Do you hear the condescension in your words or do you need me to point it out?

reply to post by projectvxn


Do you realize how good you have it as a young American servicemen? The military holds your hand through life. It's a damn good deal, for anyone willing and capable to put up with the military lifestyle.

I'm not calling you anything other than, incapable of seeing the situation of others, and inflexible to realize how easy a serviceman has it right now. You've got the most stable life anyone your age could ask for. College grads right now are working at internships for no money, because they can't even get their foot in the door after spending 4 years in college.

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by negativenihil

 

So being a one percenter is a bad thing?

I thought liberals loved small businesses.

liberals do love business hence their constant needs to get into everyone elses business instead of taking care of their own.

I recommend you get acquainted with these figures.

Amenities owned by the poor, and more than 99% of ALL Americans

Bill Whittle Explains in video what these figures mean:
Enjoy

reply to post by projectvxn


Let me fill you in on a little bit of truth. There are no real 1%er here on ATS. The real ones are busy all day everyday making money. There are people who *claim* to be 1%ers, and are free to argue all day long on the internet for the real 1%ers. (Basically I'm making a mockery of the lairs around us)

Now to answer the question you posed, is being a 1%er a bad thing? Hell no, it must be grand to be a 1%er. I'm sure they find it to be most enjoyable and have everything thy could ever want or need.

And yes, I love my small local small businesses. I support them daily. They are not 1%ers, that's for sure

reply to post by projectvxn


I recommend you get acquainted with this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

More than 80% of the people that went to college for 4 years, and spent a lot of money, do not even have a stable paying job, they're interns(NO OR LITTLE PAY!). You went to a recruiter and signed up. You have no base for your opinion.

Originally posted by negativenihil
reply to post by projectvxn

 

Let me fill you in on a little bit of truth. There are no real 1%er here on ATS. The real ones are busy all day everyday making money. There are people who *claim* to be 1%ers, and are free to argue all day long on the internet for the real 1%ers. (Basically I'm making a mockery of the lairs around us)

Now to answer the question you posed, is being a 1%er a bad thing? Hell no, it must be grand to be a 1%er. I'm sure they find it to be most enjoyable and have everything thy could ever want or need.

And yes, I love my small local small businesses. I support them daily. They are not 1%ers, that's for sure

According to the numbers they are.

reply to post by projectvxn


Running a small business costs a lot of money. They aren't grossing much more than you, in most cases of a small business.

reply to post by Evolutionsend


75% of military age people are unqualified for military service.

less than 1% of the American population serves in the military.

It isn't easy to join the military.

reply to post by projectvxn


I need a source on that, sorry.

Isn't easy to join the military? They don't WANT to join, because they have no desire to make a middle wage, that's stable, and move around the country on a whim. Anyone with no preexisting health issues that's age 18-25 can be in military condition in 6 months. It's a lot easier than college.

reply to post by Evolutionsend


Military ages 18-35:

Straight from the horse's mouth

reply to post by projectvxn


Income is not wealth. Income numbers are always significantly higher, because the same dollar is earned up to 12 times. For each manufacturing dollar there are typically about 12 service and support dollars.

Wealth is net worth, assets, and accumulated holdings and investments.

The wealthiest people do not typically have a lot of income, they just have appreciation on their wealth or, if they have capital gains, they offset or shelter them.

This is the basis of the whole tax argument. The upper 1% do not pay taxes, because they do not have income. When they do have significant capital gains, they offset it, shelter it, leave it overseas, gift it, or other sneaky ways of avoiding taxes.

Are we talking about Wealth or Income?

reply to post by getreadyalready


I believe flattening out taxes is the best way to close loopholes in the tax structure.

By that i mean scrap the 80,000 or so pages of tax codes and replace it with flat taxes and a consumption tax so you pay for the lifestyle you're living.

Nothing more equitable than that. And it doesn't even take a socialist to get it done.

I'm attacking the income earner argument.

If we're talking about wealth, the disparity isn't so different. neo96 just posted a link to the debt clock that shows house hold assets, which IS wealth.

The people I'm talking about, the 300,000 dollar crowd and above, fall into that category as well.

www.usdebtclock.org...

take a good look at household vs corporate assets wheres that one percent again?

reply to post by Evolutionsend

Isn't easy to join the military? They don't WANT to join, because they have no desire to make a middle wage, that's stable, and move around the country on a whim. Anyone with no preexisting health issues that's age 18-25 can be in military condition in 6 months. It's a lot easier than college.

That doesn't discount the fact that MOST people of military age aren't qualified for it. The data shows this and the Pentagon considers it a national security crisis.

Most of the problems come from a lack of education. I blame that on the Federal government that refuses funds for schools with poor test scores. So schools are left with only one choice, teach what is needed for test scores, and let everything else fall where it may.

reply to post by projectvxn


As I just said, 6 months and they can be ready to serve. They do not WANT to go with a military lifestyle, they want a better paying job.

Being currently out of shape does not make you unfit for service, anyone that wants to can be fit for service very quickly. That's a bunch of propaganda.

According to the latest Pentagon figures, a full 35 percent, or more than one-third, of the roughly 31.2 million Americans aged 17 to 24 are unqualified for military service because of physical and medical issues.

I guess the 75% includes the people that can be ready to serve if they chose to.

reply to post by Evolutionsend

MISSION: READINESS In a study being released Thursday in Washington, Education Secretary Arne Duncan and a group of retired military officers led by former Army Gen. Wesley Clark will sound the alarm bells and call young Americans’ relative lack of overall fitness for military duty a national security threat. The group, Mission: Readiness, will release a report that draws on Pentagon data showing that 75 percent of the nation’s 17- to 24-year-olds are ineligible for service for a variety of reasons.

From the same article.

The only number I got wrong was 18-35 year olds as that is the typical start and cut off ages to military service. 41 years old with a college degree.

I stand corrected on that one point.

Originally posted by projectvxn

According to the numbers they are.

Well, I'll be sure to let my local coffee shop owner know she is rich because the internet says so. I'm sure she'll be pleasantly surprised to hear this.

reply to post by negativenihil


It's not the internet that says so it's the CBO coupled with statistics from the BLS. And I never said they are rich. I said they are part of the ONE PERCENT that the OWS people are angry at.

Be sure to let her know she's the enemy of the OWS.

reply to post by projectvxn


Great, that still doesn't get her a much needed day off. Nor does it help my local comic book shop keep the creditors at bay. Really, I promise you - no matter what figures you can come up with, these people in my area are not 1%ers.