Who are the 1%?, page 3
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reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 04:28 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by defcon5



I took into account the top wage earners in this country. Which according to the mantra are not paying their fair share.

If you don't know how to invest, you can pay a guy to help you figure it out, or have someone manage a money market account for you.

If you start up a netflix and hire few people and make lots of money doing it, good for you.

Again, it isn't the impetus of business to hire, it is the impetus of business to profit. Otherwise there's no point in business.

Edit:

Jobs are not produced via profits. Whatever is left after paying employees and all other bills is profit.
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reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 04:28 PM by neo96
reply to post by projectvxn



the evil rich right? that evil 1 % right but the federal reserve determines the value of their wealth.

back in 1913 10k was considered to be rich take that same 10k today that would be worth over 220k take 1` million agian back in 1913 would be worth 22 million their 1% is nothing what they think they is.

the terms millionaires and billionaires have lost their meanings they of all people should know that the dollar doesnt not even come close to buying what it use to.


reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 04:37 PM by getreadyalready
Originally posted by projectvxn
Originally posted by Ghost375
They are referring to the 1% that owns 80% of the wealth.


The 1% doesn't own 80 percent of the wealth.



Sheesh!

The 1% own roughly 34-38% of the wealth in this country. And that's not just cash. That's in property, investments, business ventures, and other assets.


I agree with your concept, but this part is incorrect.

The wealthiest 400 people in the US only account for 0.000005% of the population, but they account for more than 50% of the total wealth. The top 1% easily account for 80% of all wealth, and probably more than that!!

Studies in 2007 and 2009 both show the number above 70% and increasing rapidly.

Forbes said the combined wealth of the 400 people on this year's list is $1.5 trillion, with an average net worth of $3.8 billion. That amounts to a 12% increase from last year.

USA Today

And, during a bad economy, they are still getting richer...
Despite the stalled economy, the nation's wealthiest are worth a combined $1.53 trillion, nearly equivalent to the GDP of our neighbor Canada. Their total wealth is up 12% in the year through August 26, when we took a snapshot of everyone's net worth, meaning these affluent folks did slightly better than the markets; the S&P 500, for instance, was up 10% in that time.

Yahoo Finance

According to Univ of Santa Cruz in a study through 2007, the wealth disparity is growing exponentially from 1983 through 2007.
Study

US population has grown to a record high. The economic top one percent of the population now owns over 70% of all financial assets, an all time record.

As mentioned before, just look at the first full year of the crisis when workers lost an average of 25 percent off their 401k. During the same time period, the wealth of the 400 richest Americans increased by $30 billion, bringing their total combined wealth to $1.57 trillion, which is more than the combined net worth of 50% of the US population. Just to make this point clear, 400 people have more wealth than 155 million people combined.

So urce


reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 04:40 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by defcon5



No, because it isn't the business making a profit that is hurting the long term stability of the economy. It's the government that is doing that. Profits are GOOD for the economy. Not bad.

If we start harping on people making a profit then explain to me how we're going to get the economy moving without someone, somewhere, making a profit for themselves.

It takes money to make money. It also takes spending some hard earned money so that others may benefit as well. If we start demonizing profit we are headed for a very deep cliff...And we will fall off of it.


reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 04:42 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by getreadyalready



In an economy worth 16 trillion a year? 1.53 trillion is 80 percent? The top 500 earners don't account for the entire 1%, and they certainly don't account for 80 percent of the wealth in the nation.


Huh?

These numbers also call into question the meaning of what you're trying to say here.

If 1.53 trillion is not 80% of GDP then they aren't making 50% of the GDP either. They most likely ARE making more than 50% of the POPULATION in this country. But that doesn't mean anything. only 53% of the population works in this country. Everyone else is either too young to work or simply on the dole paid for by the 53%.
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reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 04:47 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by defcon5



They have money parked at the Federal Reserve(seriously). That money is not accounted for until it reaches the overall economy.



reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 04:55 PM by Evolutionsend
reply to post by TinfoilTP



Actually, the upper wealth is a real minority. When the middle and lower of the wealth starts to feel that they are not doing well, in a real democracy they should get their improvement of life that they want. We aren't getting that, because this isn't a democracy.


reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 04:56 PM by projectvxn
Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to
post by TinfoilTP



Actually, the upper wealth is a real minority. When the middle and lower of the wealth starts to feel that they are not doing well, in a real democracy they should get their improvement of life that they want. We aren't getting that, because this isn't a democracy.


Indeed. It isn't a democracy. It's a constitutional republic where you can't simply demand the fruits of the labor of others simply because you want to vote it that way.


reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 04:57 PM by defcon5
reply to post by projectvxn


The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

If you're sitting with 10 billion in the bank, even though its not circulating, its still counted toward the total money in circulation. They have no idea if you plan to withdraw that 10 billion tomorrow, or what, so its still counted as being out there.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 05:00 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by negativenihil



So being a one percenter is a bad thing?

I thought liberals loved small businesses.


reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 05:00 PM by Evolutionsend
reply to post by projectvxn



No they aren't. They're probably not even grossing half of that. The sad reality is that small business owners rarely make a large, or even a medium amount of money anymore. The fact is that majority of small business owners fail, just as you failed. That's why they are so rare. If you put your money back into another business, you're a fool. There's too many corporations. Unless you have a whole new angle on a business, or a rural area that needs one business badly, then you are wasting your money.


reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 05:02 PM by Evolutionsend
reply to post by projectvxn



Like has been said to you in other threads, wait until the military is not paying you very well, and making your life a breeze beyond your assigned duty. The military has turned into the best deal in this country.

When you get out, you'll learn yet again that this country is #ed up. You can be a drone, or be nothing. There is no American dream. That's something we sell to immigrants, because corporate America needs those willing to take day jobs.
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