Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Isaiah 2:19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

They fear the coming of the Lord because his second coming will be the judgement, even though they have no need to fear Him if they could allow themselves to believe in Him. Even key people in the government fear the coming of the Lord, they think their deep underground bunkers will protect them from His wrath and they are wrong. They could be on the other side of the universe on that great and terrible day and it still would not save them.

The U.S. army has a saying. It goes like this: "A cave is a grave", that simple sentance speaks volumes.

edit on 29-9-2011 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)

That's the irony of this, isn't it. Whenever the destruction goes down, "they" will have built their own tombs.

On another note, I believe the vast majority of those on this site feel within their spirit, that destruction of this system is coming soon. For the "scoffers", even if they refuse to admit it, deep down they feel it.

I wouldn't mind a big fireball for the adventure but I don't think humanity is worse today than in the past. I think the amount and speed of information sharing is the big difference and it might be changing things for the better even if we can't see that yet. Imagine how easy it was to sell a lie before the Internet. An honest look at history shows corruption and suffering way beyond todays worst. I say relax, enjoy the show and if the opportunity presents itself, get involved. OBTW, I'm an Oathkeeper too. We're making a difference as are many other people throughout the World. Things are changing and soon we'll reach a tipping point where no banker or politician will be safe. Hoorah!!

Something is definetly way off and wrong with the world.Corruption is happening in governments.

Here's the problem, besides being extremely selfish, most of the doom addicts who support and get excited over all the doom and gloom predictions seem to assume almost everyone else will die... except them (a few actually do have a death wish though). These folks have delusions of grandeur. They think they are special and have some destiny and the only thing holding them back is the #ty current world, when they're really not special at all. They keep talking about how they want a fresh start and they'd rather live in an post apocalyptic world yadayada. But you have to have a few screws loose to assume that if a disastrous world changing event happens, that kills of billions of people, somehow you'll be that hero that survives and roams around in the aftermath kicking ass and having fun in a new world.

These people watch too many zombie/post apocalypse movies and think they are going to be just like the survivors/hero in those movies when in reality they'll probably die before they even knew what hit them just like everyone else. What good is a "new world" if you're not alive to see it? You people need to stop thinking you'll survive through an apocalypse, it wouldn't be an apocalypse if it was that easy to survive.

So stupid to hope for the death of billions of your fellow man because you have this ridiculous delusion that you and your loved ones will survive just because you stocked up a few guns and some canned food in your basement and want it to happen. If it is an apocalyptic world changing event, there's an extremely high chance you will die too and then all your wishing and hoping to see a new world won't mean anything, you won't even exist anymore. The irony is, the people most likely to survive an apocalyptic event are in fact "tptb" the rich and powerful people you loath so much will be chilling out in deep underground, fully stocked bunkers and bases designed to survive such events while you're hiding in your flimsy basement 10 feet underground.

And not to mention to those who always say they "feel the end is near" or "feel something big is coming", NO that feeling means NOTHING, people have felt like that FOREVER. Study history there's been people crying doom and gloom and predicting end of the world for thousands of years and it hasn't happened, you are no different than them it is just a part of humanity and largely an influence of religions. The only difference now is silly doom predictions can spread faster and wider now because of the internet. There's a bit of an increase of people spewing crap about the end of the world recently because of all the 2012 folklore but I remember right before 2000 there was a similar pick up in doom frenzy and then nothing happened and it died down a bit again, go figure.

See ya in 2013, sorry you're so depressed and selfish that you can't appreciate your life for what it is and want billions of people to die for your own desires/beliefs of how the world should be. Hitler felt the same way.

Originally posted by Jobeycool
Something is definetly way off and wrong with the world.Corruption is happening in governments.

This has been going on since the dawn of man, even since America was started as the bankers tried to take control from our founding fathers and the people. Corruption is and has been happening before all of us were a twinkle in our mothers eyes.

All of these doomsday posts really point to one thing...that the fear, stress, anxiety and negativity being put forth by TBTB are working. We are all taking it in and manifesting it outward in our daily lives so much so that we want "it all to end" with the hopes of some magnificent disaster. Why? Cause its an easy way out...

Suicide by Doomsday prophecies, its almost like suicide by police. You cant actually pull the trigger yourself....

If we see a bleak tomorrow then thats exactly what we will get. Its not rocket science, its pretty simple. Our thoughts create our world. Really think about that for a second.

Its up to you and NO ONE else to change your life and make it better. Stop the hate, the blame, the excuses. Turn off the internet, the TV, go outside and enjoy life.

We are all amazing people with wonderful talents and abilities BUT we are NOT the chosen ones, picked to be here at THIS TIME. THIS TIME that is no different than any other time. We are NOT special, the dream walkers, the last of the great civilization, etc. That is EGO, and nothing but....

If you are waiting for the world to end that is pretty sad. Take control of your life and change it and stop feeding into the negative fear based bull#.

If we are here for any special reason its to find out that we can create whatever we want and live life in a state of happiness and love. There is no point to worry about "the world", you cant change it but you can change your life. Start there, its way easier and way less intimidating...

Much PEACE!

People have been predicting the end of day's since the begining of day's. There will be no global event, that's just people's fantasies.

In my opinion the reason so many people want govt. and society to collapse is so they can run aroung looting and raping with impunity. Most i doubt would admit to it but i have no doubt theres plenty of sociopaths out there that do dream up this stuff.

Thank you. I think you hit the nail on the head. Change is needed right now, that's the bottom line. Though I'd prefer it to be not of the "99% of the world's population dead" variety, anything that gives us a new beginning would actually be a good thing.

For quite some time now, I've been saying that we need to hit the "reset" button. Obviously, many others think the same way and that "reset" button is different for many people.

None-the-less it needs to be hit for we need a new start. We need a new beginning because I just can't see a bright future for our species if we do not begin again down a new and more prosperous path.

We all need to set some positive goals that our civilization can work toward (especially when it comes energy and space travel).

We must do it together as one.

-A.S.-

We are all already dead.
We are just walking corpses.
The walking dead.
Zombies.

If you think you can join the system to change it, you are deluding yourself. You will become it.

If you think you can use violence to punish the system, you are deluding yourself. You will be crushed.

If you think you can convince people of the error of their ways through diplomacy and dialogue, you are again deluding yourself. People usually only listen to what they want to hear.

So I can understand why people want everything to come to a cataclysmic end. It's a viable solution, however it is all based on luck and randomness. Odds are we are going to be stuck here and have to pay our bills next month.

Beautifully written, and I disagree.


Kids and animals don't need a catastrophe to happen just because there are a lot of lost adult humans wandering the earth seeking excitement and purpose.

May I suggest that everyone who needs a big jolt take a trip to a developing country for a mere 3 weeks.

Just go to place with no internet, no ATS, no Starbucks, no light switches, flushing toilets, running water... you won't be lonely, you'll be with 1.5 billion people if you leave today.

Don't drag your nephews and your pets. Just you and trust me you will quickly be very grateful that the rest of the world hasn't actually come to an end and that you will have some place to come back to, that you can then appreciate and make even better.

And IMHO this suggestion should be a 3 week annual requirement for all DOW, NASDAQ, S&P corporate execs and hedge fund managers, and Federal and State elected officials. AND for all the current and previous Federal Reserve members it should be a 6 month mandatory sabbatical effective immediately. That done I HEREBY PREDICT REAL CHANGE by May 2012

Originally posted by lokdog
People have been predicting the end of day's since the begining of day's. There will be no global event, that's just people's fantasies.

In my opinion the reason so many people want govt. and society to collapse is so they can run aroung looting and raping with impunity. Most i doubt would admit to it but i have no doubt theres plenty of sociopaths out there that do dream up this stuff.

Are you aware of the extinction of the dinosaurs?

Do you realize that it occurred rapidly? It was a fast paced cataclysm.

There is historical precedent for such events, there is evidence that they happened.

There is a lot of different ways that things can go wrong. I try to stay in the middle ground area, where I am aware of the possibilities but prefer to remain within the shades of gray.

Saying it will happen, is just as poor form as saying it will not happen. You do not know as a fact, it's merely your wishful thinking and fantasies that cause you to assert conclusively that no event will happen. Are you a prophet now too?

Also, government is the largest purveyor of death, rape , and theft historically. Look at the facts.
USSR, Nazi Germany, Red China, Cambodia, Congo, etc etc.
And that's just the last 100 years.

Gov't is definitely the biggest murderer of all. They hand out licences to kill for crying out loud. If you are acting on behalf of your government, you have no responsibility or accountability, and you can get away with anything.

First reply on ATS so cut me a little slack, but there seems to be a divide here on ATS. Many want a complete reboot of the system via some sort of cataclysmic event, whether it be by meteor, comet, rogue planet, plague, World War Tres, etc. And a **majority of the rest, while they agree there is something very wrong with this world, believe this global plight can be solved with action. I’m assuming they’re pro revolution (I would hope they weren’t naïve enough to think they could ballet a vote to fix this quandary). Unfortunately, for many, a revolutionary victory may seem impossible. After all, they (the white gloved chaps with an affinity for giant owls and rubbing their hands together) have all the money, all the bombers, all the warships, and biological weaponry. They have the military, the best bunkers, and technology we could never compete against. The matter seems rather hopeless. Why go to war if a celestial body moving twenty-four thousand km/h can do the job for us?

The problem lies in the aftermath, assuming you survive the calamity in the first place. What comes next? The “elite” were hiding in their awesome bunkers whilst you were dodging burning debris like anvils in a Looney Toons cartoon. They have underground gardens to keep them fed, leaving you to decide which corpse looks the least disgusting at the moment, holding your bottle of Heinz ketchup. While you’re busy shooting daggers at every Tom, Dick, and Jane that eyeballs your shopping cart full of toiletries and guns you don’t have ammo for, they’re busy making bets on warring clans via satellite feed while they have a healthy dose of Cabin Boy to the sweets tunes of U2. Once they decide to emerge from their hobbit holes, while you’re malnourished and sleep deprived, you now get the epic task of doing battle with these people that were looking for a less than 50 mil population to keep control over (which has now been handed to them on a silver platter via our hopes and dreams played out a la ‘The Road’), and they’ve brought with them all of their cool toys to rule us with. So we get our disaster scenario, they get their inevitable win….. and that’s Jenga.

You may be saying; “Garkiniss, you’re a pessimist.” To which I reply, maybe a little, but remember this….
The world needs both optimists and pessimists. An optimist invented the airplane. A pessimist invented the parachute. There are two sides to every coin, and not understanding both sides of a situation is far more dangerous than any Elitist Plot.

**I say majority because there seems to be a few who believe the world is peachy. We call these people narcissists; they live happy, blind lives, and care not for the woes of the rest of the world. They live in bliss, and we all know what tree bliss grows on.

[post scriptum] I do have a theory as to why the New World Order… is it really new? How long has this been going on? Anywho, my apologies, I digress, and all of those other etiquette pleasantries. I do have a theory as to why they would want to do what it is they’re doing, but I’ll save it for a later, more appropriate thread, so as not to taint the subject of this fella’s good work.