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Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by HappyBunny
No we don't, and if we did, how did they come up with that plan and what is it based on?
No, it's not an educated guess. We use mathematical formulae to derive the mean, median, mode, and standard deviation.
Originally posted by flyingfish
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
LMAO! Your going to have to jump in a time machine and go back some 7 million years in order to hook up with your dream date.
Dream date
And what exactly do you think they used to come up with those numbers, what was it based on DNA, what?
What, you think we just make that stuff up out of thin air? I assure you there is a mathematical and physical reality for every single number we use.
Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
There's no such thing as devolution. Traits can resurface due to environmental and breeding pressures, but evolution is just the description of continuous change over time due to gene frequency shifts.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by HappyBunny
And what exactly do you think they used to come up with those numbers, what was it based on DNA, what?
What, you think we just make that stuff up out of thin air? I assure you there is a mathematical and physical reality for every single number we use.
edit on 5-3-2012 by itsthetooth because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
There's no such thing as devolution. Traits can resurface due to environmental and breeding pressures, but evolution is just the description of continuous change over time due to gene frequency shifts.
If this is true then there is something wrong with that article.
Evolutionist hoax?
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
There's no such thing as devolution. Traits can resurface due to environmental and breeding pressures, but evolution is just the description of continuous change over time due to gene frequency shifts.
If this is true then there is something wrong with that article.
Evolutionist hoax?
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
We still can't make babies with apes and I'm sure that many on here would like a very detailed explanation of what is preventing them from doing this.
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
There's no such thing as devolution. Traits can resurface due to environmental and breeding pressures, but evolution is just the description of continuous change over time due to gene frequency shifts.
If this is true then there is something wrong with that article.
Evolutionist hoax?
Ok, I just read the article, and it said nothing about devolution. It was talking about how we have been assuming that our last common ancestor with chimps will be very chimp-like, ignoring the fact that chimps have been evolving for 5 million years since the divergence too. They're explaining that we don't know what the "missing link" will look like until we find it. Nothing really outlandish there.
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
yeah, check out last post....
So we have actually no theory of WHAT animal we came from then... is that what you are saying?
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
yeah, check out last post....
So we have actually no theory of WHAT animal we came from then... is that what you are saying?
No, we're just not sure what traits we will inevitably share with our last common ancestor with chimps. It's unknown which traits developed first and what traits were bred out as our lines evolved separately.
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
yeah, check out last post....
So we have actually no theory of WHAT animal we came from then... is that what you are saying?
No, we're just not sure what traits we will inevitably share with our last common ancestor with chimps. It's unknown which traits developed first and what traits were bred out as our lines evolved separately.
but that is not what the article sounds like it is trying to say.
It seems to be saying that in hindsight, chimps may be a poor example of an idea of what animal we are related to.
so they think it could be a different one, no?
Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer
It's easy to garner a lot of information from only a few bones, especially hands and feet. The bones show muscles, well-used areas, where weight was shifted, etc. This is my area of study. It's not much guess-work.
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by BlackSatinDancer
yeah, check out last post....
So we have actually no theory of WHAT animal we came from then... is that what you are saying?
No, we're just not sure what traits we will inevitably share with our last common ancestor with chimps. It's unknown which traits developed first and what traits were bred out as our lines evolved separately.
but that is not what the article sounds like it is trying to say.
It seems to be saying that in hindsight, chimps may be a poor example of an idea of what animal we are related to.
so they think it could be a different one, no?
No, they are saying that chimps evolved too since then, so using their current traits as a template for a pre-5 million year old ancestor is pointless. It's not a different animal, just an ancestor with unknown traits.