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NASA Whistleblower: Alien Moon Cities Exist

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posted on Sep, 20 2011 @ 03:53 PM
reply to post by sapien82

There is no side of the Moon which does not receive sunlight.
Thank you for the correction.

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 08:17 AM
reply to post by Phage

Yeh I know that , but at certain times of the lunar cycle there are places on the moon that do not receive sunlight , hence the reason why we have a dark side when the sun doesnt hit it !

or did we just invent the lunar terminator for nothing ?

Why am I even bothering with this its mental !
phage why do you always have to be so picky , just for fun ?

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 11:21 AM
reply to post by sapien82

There are people who think that there is a "dark side" of the Moon. That one side of the Moon does not ever receive sunlight.

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 11:29 AM

Originally posted by playswithmachines
reply to post by wmd_2008

Yes you can.
Go find the 'gigapixel picture thread'..........

WHY dont you read how the gigapixel picture is done no let me!!!

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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 11:39 AM
reply to post by Phage

Many people use the phrase "the dark side of the moon" to describe something mysterious and unknown. The dark side of the moon is supposed to be the side we never see, the side that faces away from Earth. This side of the moon faces the cold, black expanse of space. What could be on this side of the moon? What are conditions like there? Is it really always dark?

. Part of the problem is the fact that we always see the same side of the moon. Another part concerns a general misunderstanding regarding the cause of the phases of the moon. But mostly, it's a problem with terminology.

So just because we can't see it from an Earth viewing perspective doesn't mean it's dark. NASA has shown photos which NASA says they are from the other side of the moon, (NASA always has the latest issue of photoshop at the ready as well, so basically unless you go there yourself it's up to your and your imagination and NASA photos to believe what is there)

Interesting things about the moon.....

1. Moon’s Age: The moon is far older than previously expected. Maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old; moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they were resting was at least another billion years older.
2. Rock’s Origin: The chemical composition of the dust upon which the rocks sat differed remarkably from the rocks themselves, contrary to accepted theories that the dust resulted from weathering and breakup of the rocks themselves. The rocks had to have come from somewhere else.
3. Heavier Elements on Surface: Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. According to Wilson,
"The abundance of refractory elements like titanium in the surface areas is so pronounced that several geologists proposed the refractory compounds were brought to the moon’s surface in great quantity in some unknown way. They don’t know how, but that it was done cannot be questioned."
4. Water Vapor: On March 7, 1971, lunar instruments placed by the astronauts recorded a vapor cloud of water passing across the surface of the moon. The cloud lasted 14 hours and covered an area of about 100 square miles.
5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a "close call" with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart.
6. No Volcanoes: Some of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.

7. Moon Mascons: Mascons, which are large, dense, circular masses lying twenty to forty miles beneath the centers of the moon’s maria,
"are broad, disk-shaped objects that could be possibly some kind of artificial construction. For huge circular disks are not likely to be beneath each huge maria, centered like bull’s-eyes in the middle of each, by coincidence or accident."

8. Seismic Activity: Hundreds of "moonquakes" are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. In November, 1958, Soviet astronomer Nikolay A. Kozyrev of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory photographed a gaseous eruption of the moon near the crater Alphonsus. He also detected a reddish glow that lasted for about an hour. In 1963, astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region. These observations have proved to be precisely identical and periodical, repeating themselves as the moon moves closer to the Earth. These are probably not natural phenomena.

9. Hollow Moon: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated,
"If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere."
Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity."
MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote,
"the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field... indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow."
In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object.

10. Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour.

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 11:41 AM
More interesting moon anomalies....

11. Unusual Metals: The moon’s crust is much harder than presumed. Remember the extreme difficulty the astronauts encountered when they tried to drill into the maria? Surprise! The maria is composed primarily illeminite, a mineral containing large amounts of titanium, the same metal used to fabricate the hulls of deep-diving submarines and the skin of the SR-71 "Blackbird". Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not found in nature on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks, as were rustproof iron particles.

12. Moon’s Origin: Before the astronauts’ moon rocks conclusively disproved the theory, the moon was believed to have originated when a chunk of Earth broke off eons ago (who knows from where?). Another theory was that the moon was created from leftover "space dust" remaining after the Earth was created. Analysis of the composition of moon rocks disproved this theory also.

Another popular theory is that the moon was somehow "captured" by the Earth’s gravitational attraction. But no evidence exists to support this theory. Isaac Asimov, stated,

"It’s too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the moon then having taken up nearly circular orbit around our Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible."

13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.

14. Moon Diameter: How does one explain the "coincidence" that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Again, Isaac Asimov responds,

"There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion."

15. Spaceship Moon: As outrageous as the Moon-Is-a-Spaceship Theory is, all of the above items are resolved if one assumes that the moon is a gigantic extraterrestrial craft, brought here eons ago by intelligent beings. This is the only theory that is supported by all of the data, and there are no data that contradict this theory.

Greek authors Aristotle and Plutarch, and Roman authors Apolllonius Rhodius and Ovid all wrote of a group of people called the Proselenes who lived in the central mountainous area of Greece called Arcadia. The Proselenes claimed title to this area because their forebears were there "before there was a moon in the heavens."

This claim is substantiated by symbols on the wall of the Courtyard of Kalasasaya, near the city of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia, which record that the moon came into orbit around the Earth between 11,500 and 13, 000 years ago, long before recorded history.

edit on 21-9-2011 by mileslong54 because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 11:45 AM
reply to post by Phage

hahaha agreed ! Sorry wasnt being negative towards you , in case you thought I was .
I appreciate your quite maticulous when it comes to scientific fact !

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 11:52 AM
reply to post by mileslong54

Not that bit of nonsense again.


The oldest dated moon rocks, however, have ages between 4.4 and 4.5 billion years and provide a minimum age for the formation of our nearest planetary neighbor.

2) The lunar soil has been formed by a variety of processes, including micrometeoric impacts.

The powdery grey dirt is formed by micrometeorite impacts which pulverize local rocks into fine particles It is not surprising that it may contain components differing from moon rocks.

Where did the rocks come from? Larger impacts throw larger rocks all over the surface of the Moon.

The Moon was pummeled to such a great extent that the materials we see today on the lunar surface are directly related to the materials excavated and ejected from ancient basin-forming events. The degree to which the far-flung ejecta from the Moon's largest basins influenced the distribution of observed geochemical terranes is the subject of work by Noah Petro (formerly of Brown University and now at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center) and Carle Pieters (Brown University).

3) This claim is silly. Titanium is not a heavy element, in fact it is one of the lightest metals. Titanium has an atomic weight of 47.867, iron has an atomic weight of

4) Yes there is water on the Moon but I would like to see the source for the claim about a cloud of water vapor.

5) Just because the Moon does not have a magnetic field now does not mean it never

6) There is plenty of evidence that the moon was volcanically active in the distant past.

The lunar magma ocean was followed by a series of huge asteroid impacts that created basins which were later filled by lava flows. The large, dark basins such as Mare Imbrium are gigantic impact craters, formed early in lunar history, that were later filled by lava flows about 3.2 to 3.9 billion years ago. Lunar volcanism occurred mostly as lava floods that spread horizontally; volcanic fire fountains produced deposits of orange and emerald-green glass beads.

7) There are a number of theories concerning the origin of the mascons. I can't find any scientists who suggest they are artificial constructions.

It is shown that hydrostatic equilibrium theories can account for the excess filling of lava in circular maria and that mascons will result when this process occurs in the presence of a thick rigid lithosphere.

8) Moonquakes can be explained by faulting.

In this case, the release of potential energy through the fault system would be adequate to explain moonquakes, their properties, and the clustering of the locations of lunar transient events around the circular maria.

Transient Lunar Phenomena (TLP's) of different sorts have been observed. They are not well understood but to say "are probably not natural phenomena" is a bit premature.

Of the many theories proposed, we believe that they are the outcome of lunar outgassing, that is, gas being released from the surface of the Moon. To learn more about the evidence supporting this hypothesis, please read our scientific papers below.

9) Dr. MacDonald made his statement before the Apollo missions. The seismic experiments carried out on the Apollo missions showed that the Moon is composed almost entirely of material comparable in density to that of Earth's mantle. The average density of the moon is less than earth because it has a very small iron core in comparison to Earth.

The Moon's density is fairly uniform throughout and is only about 3.3 times the density of water. If it has an iron core, it is less than 800 kilometers in diameter. This is a sharp contrast from planets like Mercury and the Earth that have large iron-nickel cores and overall densities more than 5 times the density of water. The Moon's mantle is made of silicate materials, like the Earth's mantle, and makes up about 90% of the Moon's volume.

Densities of Earth's layers:

Continental Crust: 2.7 to 3.0
Oceanic Crust: 3.0 to 3.3
Mantle (silicates): 3.3 to 5.7 (increasing with depth?)
Outer Core (liquid): 9.9 to 12.2
Inner Core (solid): 12.6 to 13.0

10) I'm bored now.

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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 11:59 AM
What makes your off site content more correct, could it be your ego?

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 12:02 PM
reply to post by mileslong54

For one thing, I provided sources.
Something you (and your source) failed to do. Your source spouts nonsense.

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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 12:23 PM

off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 12:34 PM
reply to post by Phage

Thanks for your hard work phage is not an easy job creating posts like that . i enjoyed reading it .

posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 12:45 PM

Originally posted by mileslong54
phage - a virus that is parasitic (reproduces itself) in bacteria

kind of all make sense now

That still doesn't add linked sources to your external text so we may all look at the site and judge for ourselves.

posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 04:52 AM
reply to post by 2manyquestions

if you look real close you can also see what looks like lines going across it in a starburst pattern around a circle of bright light looks like a highway and city to me

posted on Sep, 22 2011 @ 05:04 AM
reply to post by NightGypsy

thank you what we need to do is form a coalition and demand of our government and not let them wring us dry our entire lives and then charge our family's when we die

posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 10:46 AM
These facts about the Moon and Mars are just the tip of the disclosure iceberg, the revealing of our past and our neighboring planetary families and how we all come from different star nations and incarnated here on Earth to see how the different star nationalities of the human race interact on different levels of our being.

posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 05:21 PM
reply to post by Wolfenz

Arthur was brilliant, thanks for the post

He belongs in the hall of fame with Laithwaite, Keeley, Tesla and a host of little known & ignored scientists.
They were the heretics who dared to have an opinion

posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 05:25 PM
reply to post by Phage

I think what most people mean by 'dark side' is the side facing away from earth, being tide-locked and all

posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 05:31 PM
reply to post by wmd_2008

But wait, you said it could not be done.
It has, & now you are nitpicking about how it was done?
Do you think TPTB have the same access to technology as we do?
What you see is at least 10 years behind the actual programme, if not 25 years.......
Ever zoomed in on the original Hubble shots?
Hint; it takes 10 minutes to download the picture......and this is only what they let us see

posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 08:16 PM
How many "moon facts" are not supported by some and contradicted by others? We know what we are told of some of the facts in question and there are continually new discoveries that some scientists and groups will argue and contest but there is little assurrance that what is known or accepted are the most factual. many aspects of the moon remain an enigma.

One point of minor confusion for some is there is not a perpetually "dark side". All faces receive sun though the lunar day is nearly a month in duration. There is a "far side" of the moon that remains away from the Earth and is never seen by us who are earth-bound. What we know of that is again what we are told and there are questions and arguments among the "experts" about what is there. One thing that is fairly much in agreement is that the terrain on that far side is markedly different that the side we see. Do the polar regions contain areas of perpetual twilight and have less temperature extremes and therefore might be a bit more hospitable?

There are more questions than pat answers as the scientific experts argue over the facts and details. There is no 100% disclosure about all the "moon facts" either to ourselves nor to all the interested scientists and investigators. There are interests that would wish to control what is known of the moon either to "protect" us from information that would have us jump to conclusions about what it means, and from scientists who would wish to protect their expertise and conclusions from being called into question. Largely there would appear to be some "red herrings" that keep us guessing and interested in things that are of lesser importance and keep us from pondering over what might be the most relevant questions that are seldom asked and quickly brushed-off and forgotten.

If the moon does not have a hollow core as some suggest and the experts deny then does it have huge caverns or caves that might be accessible and useful for lunar bases and colonization? If not then can we excavate and build subterranean structures from available materials where we could maintain a breathable environment that could protect us from harsh temperatures and radiation? Do we just lack the desire to build a luner base or are there other factors that would keep us away from taking on such endeavors? Would the moon not be suitable as a stepping stone to space mining or usable as an observation platform for geological events or astronomical exploration, or is it just not in a desireable location for such concerns? Are we alone in this solar system as we assume ourselves to be, and are we the also the first intelligent beings to have set foot on this body as is also assumed? Is there any reason why there should not be 100% disclosure of all moon facts and discoveries uncovered to date?

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