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Topic started on 24-8-2004 @ 11:48 AM by goose
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Photos taken that day but not confiscated by the FBI clearly shows the killer on the grassy knoll with the smoking gun in his hands. The FBI did not
take these photos because they thought they did not show anything but with our new advances in photography now you get a clear picture of the killer
and there is no doubt he has the smoking gun in his hands. Also this website gives a name of the killer and it all fits into a neat little package,
it actually makes sense. Only question left now is why he was killed and who ordered it?
www.jfkresearch.com...
Another photo one that was even published in a magazine in 1968 shows Oswald standing outside watching the President pass by, he was standing in the
book depository doorway exactly where he said he was.
www.whatreallyhappened.com...
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 11:54 AM by JabbaOnTheDais
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Yeah, I love those photos. It looks just like Oswald, and I'm convinced it is. That photo was taken right after the first shot (as you can see the
secret service looking around for where the noise came from). Something else to note is how VP Johnson's secret service agents are getting out of his
car.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 12:11 PM by goose
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Originally posted by JabbaOnTheDais
Yeah, I love those photos. It looks just like Oswald, and I'm convinced it is. That photo was taken right after the first shot (as you can see the
secret service looking around for where the noise came from). Something else to note is how VP Johnson's secret service agents are getting out of his
car. 
I agree it does look just like him right down to the clothes with the missing button (you can see this clearly) he was wearing when he was later
arrested. I can't believe that they said that guy was wearing a striped shirt red, white and blue and identified him. How crazy is that?
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 12:28 PM by esdad71
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So, does this picture prove that he was killed for wanting to end the cold war and Vietnam. it does seem odd he was protected by his car stopping
before the rest of the gunfire took place.
We all know that someone had him killed but we will never know who it was. There is no way to rewrite the history books now. 500 years from now when
students are learning about ealry millenial culture 101 in college, it will still be stated that he was assasinated,which he was, but it will never
say by whom. I beleive the person that gave that order is probably dead by now and it is of no consequence.
Conspiracy can be derived from coincidence as easy as it can be created in ones own mind.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 03:07 PM by goose
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True Esdad71 but the photos prove once and for all Oswald was just what he said he was, a patsy. The photo also proves he was standing exactly where
he said he was and had nothing to do with the assassination. The photo of the killer proves that the shots did come from the grassy knoll. Now if as
indeed Officer Tippit was the shooter as this webpage with the shooter on it says then three men were set up that day, JFK to die, Tippit the shooter
but also the one to die to set up Oswald to be arrested for both murders and also Tippit was murdered to forever shut him up on his part in the
assassination and Oswald had to die also, if a trial had been in the future it maight have raised some interesting questions and Who knows maybe
Oswald knew enough about it to get someone in big trouble. My guess is he knew very little otherwise he would have not lived as long as he did.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 04:00 PM by esdad71
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and now that time has passed, most of the truth is now buried. IT is something that has facinated me since I was a kid.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 05:01 PM by goose
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Originally posted by esdad71
and now that time has passed, most of the truth is now buried. IT is something that has facinated me since I was a kid. 
I don't think the truth is buried, just really below the surface, advances in technology is giving us answers far more than the warren commission
ever did. I think though you are more interested in the truth of who ordered it than who the actual people involved were. If you look at the emblem
on Tippits sleeve you realize he belonged to an organization that was probably easily manipulated because they saw JFK as one who was going to change
the racial imbalance and could easily be used by someone from within the government. Many say that he was killed by a lot of consprators from many
facets of the gov.. It is believed that he was going to stop our involvement in Vietnam that alone could have gotten him killed as lots of people were
making millions from that war, much like many are making millions off the current war.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 05:38 PM by s13guy
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Originally posted by esdad71
We all know that someone had him killed but we will never know who it was. There is no way to rewrite the history books now. 500 years from now when
students are learning about ealry millenial culture 101 in college, it will still be stated that he was assasinated,which he was, but it will never
say by whom. I beleive the person that gave that order is probably dead by now and it is of no consequence.

i believe it was a unilateral consensus to take JFK out of the picture. Consensus of whom?? idk..
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 05:59 PM by zcheng
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US people will always say what you find is just one more conspiracy theory, even though you have found the truth. Sad, but true.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 08:27 PM by j2ts2
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I always believed that the DOD engineered his death because of the way he stood on the Generals and Admirals during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The
wanted a show of force and firepower confrontation and JFK made them stand down. He took complete control of the situation and wouldn't take their
advice.
PS to Zcheng(?) In a war between the US and China, China would not be destroyed, nor conquered because of their geography. This is the way things
have gone for 5,000 years.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 09:04 PM by maynardsthirdeye
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The man in the doorway is Bill Nolan Lovelady and the so-called "Badgeman" figure is not what it appears to be.
www.jfk-online.com...
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 09:35 PM by zcheng
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Actually both China and US will survive a major war, but just not what we know now. The two nuked cities are doing well today.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 09:51 PM by ShadowXIX
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Originally posted by maynardsthirdeye
and the so-called "Badgeman" figure is not what it appears to be.
www.jfk-online.com... 
So badge man is a giant Coca Cola bottle  I think that picture can be what ever you want it to be.
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reply posted on 24-8-2004 @ 11:30 PM by goose
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Originally posted by maynardsthirdeye
The man in the doorway is Bill Nolan Lovelady and the so-called "Badgeman" figure is not what it appears to be.
www.jfk-online.com... 
Actually the man was reported to be Lovelady but he was wearing a red white and blue striped shirt and said he was and also other pictures taken of
him that day shows him in a red, white and blue striped shirt, look at the picture, Oswald when arrested was wearing a tweed like shirt with a t-shirt
under it and also had a button missing dressed exactly like he was in the doorway, this is without a doubt Oswald standing in the doorway not
Lovelady.
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reply posted on 25-8-2004 @ 09:43 PM by maynardsthirdeye
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No, it is Lovelady. Oswald didn't wear that shirt to work. He wore a red, rust-colored shirt. He changed when he got to his boarding house.
mcadams.posc.mu.edu...
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reply posted on 26-8-2004 @ 12:09 AM by Blackout
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 I don't think the truth is buried, just really below the surface, advances in technology is giving us answers far more than the warren
commission ever did. 
I saw something on TV once where they used 3D to examine the JFK assassination. I didn't get to their conclusions however as I was pressed for
time.
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reply posted on 26-8-2004 @ 03:46 PM by SMR
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This dies out quick.
Are there any more images or proof anywhere?
Whats this 'coke bottle' image.Im trying some filters on it to see if it is indeed a coke bottle or not.
As for who was wearing what and when,I'd like to see more.I have seen hair compared and images of the badgeman,though some pages get me lost as to
what is what when they try to compare.
Here are some interesting pages.
The Medical Evidence
Proof of a Shot From the Grassy Knoll?
Motorcycle Cop Struck by the President's Brain Matter
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reply posted on 27-8-2004 @ 10:22 PM by maynardsthirdeye
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Don't trust that disinformation from McAdams.
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reply posted on 27-8-2004 @ 11:42 PM by goose
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Originally posted by maynardsthirdeye
Don't trust that disinformation from McAdams. 
In one of the above posts you quote his webpage that its Lovelady then you say not to trust him, I'm confused. after reading your first post I did go
and do some more research and found that someone who is an expert on bone structure and measurements and all that did testify that it was Lovelady,
not Oswald after studying pictures of both men. I also read where Oswald said that he was in the lunchroom eating his lunch at the time the
assassination occurred and that a police officer saw him there only seconds after the assassination. Now some might call it weird that Oswald ate
lunch and got off his feet while the president was driving by, I don't, if Bush drove by or even parked in my driveway, I doubt I would bother even
going to the window to peep out. I'm tired and sick, who cares if he drives by? There is one thing about Lovelady he said he went outside with his
boss and another employee they all state that they were seated on the steps not standing as the man in the doorway who is clearly standing alone.
Lovelady's view was blocked and he had to be told the president had been shot, the man in the doorway had a clear view of the shot. I don't know if
its Lovelady or Oswald, but one thing for sure they sure do look alike from a distance.
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reply posted on 28-8-2004 @ 12:16 AM by WhiteWolf420
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Originally posted by maynardsthirdeye
the so-called "Badgeman" figure is not what it appears to be.
www.jfk-online.com... 
Not to be rude or anything but the site you provided is incorrect. The place which it’s point out to be the real location of “Badge man” is actually
the location of the “black dog man”. Oliver Stone is correct in the placement of “Badge man”, at least according to the Robert J. Groden. Robert J.
Groden was Stone’s technical advisor, who also has a movie called “JFK: The Case for Conspiracy”.
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