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Originally posted by Imhotepsol
I believe that we all need someone to look over us because at times we are incapable of seeing past our personal prejudices into the heart of a matter. In the case of the Obese parents overfeeding their kids, they are passing their ignorance onto their children, who'll pass it on and on et infinitum, until someone steps in. It is not necessarily the parents fault, but that does not detract from the fact, that by the evidence presented by their own parenting, they are simply unable or unwilling to properly raise their kids.
You move onto the eugenics arguement which is all to common amongst you libertarian / anarchist self direction types. Eugenics is a legitimate science that has real potential. Discarding the science because of the Nazis is like saying we should also do away with Banning of Vivisection, Animal Conservation, Welfare Programs, The Volkswagen or Modern Rocketry / Jet propulsion, because they all came from Nazi Germany too. Or perhaps we should reverse our modern position on smoking because again the Nazis discovered it.
- Philippe Boucher. You're attempting to slander the legitimate by using a loaded emotional example. Again not a particularly encouraging sign of intelligence.
Most striking, perhaps, is that Nazi scientists pioneered the world's most sophisticated tobacco health research, including the first case control epidemiological studies, concluding unequivocally (p < 1in 10 million) that tobacco was the major cause of lung cancer.
It's the same idea if some asshat assaults you and you need the police. But then again, whose right is it to tell him who he can and cannot assault or damage. I'm afraid this line of argument is incredibly shallow, surface level thinking.
Originally posted by EvanB
Parents of seven told: Your children are too fat, so you will never see them again
(visit the link for the full news article)
Four obese children are on the brink of being permanently removed from their family by social workers after their parents failed to bring their weight under control. In the first case of its kind, their mother and father now face what they call the‘unbearable’ likelihood of never seeing them again. Their three daughters, aged 11, seven and one, and five-year-old son, will either be‘fostered without contact’ or adopted
Originally posted by RadeonGFXRHumanGTXisAlien
The first time social workers have ever done anything right.
Good job .
These kids were heading to a life of disease and health risks involved with obesity.
Hopefully the kids lose their weight in the following year .
Good, making your kids fat is a form of child abuse.
If you want to keep your kids, teach them to eat properly instead of feeding them crap to keep them quiet.
Warned that the children must slim or be placed in care, the family spent two years living in a council-funded ‘Big Brother’ house in which they were constantly supervised and the food they ate monitored.
But despite subjecting them to intense scrutiny, social workers did not impose rules on what food the children should eat, and there was apparently little or no improvement. OP source
Originally posted by MrWendal
You know what troubles me most about this??
These are kids. Just because they are overweight now does not mean they will remain that way.
Originally posted by Jana12
This is my opinion ...
IMO, this story reeks of pedophilia and experimentation. This government agency plans to use the children for unthinkable reasons. "Officials" who would tear apart a family unit are also the very same people who would use the children for some sicko, twisted, self-serving purposes -- same mentality, same mindset.
Anyone with a conscience couldn't intentionally tear apart a family. A person with a conscience helps a family in distress -- they don't separate them from their loved ones.
Eugenics is the "applied science or the bio-social movement which advocates the use of practices aimed at improving the genetic composition of a population", usually referring to human populations. Eugenics was widely popular in the early decades of the 20th century. By the mid-20th century eugenics had fallen into disfavor, having become associated with Nazi Germany. Both the public and some elements of the scientific community have associated eugenics with Nazi abuses, such as enforced "racial hygiene", human experimentation, and the extermination of "undesired" population groups. However, developments in genetic, genomic, and reproductive technologies at the end of the 20th century have raised many new questions and concerns about the meaning of eugenics and its ethical and moral status in the modern era, effectively creating a resurgence of interest in eugenics.