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What you amount to. (the tea party)

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Why shouldn't they. They are all poor stances. They are all stances that invade the lives of other people she should butt out. Her energy policy just serves oil people why would you think her policy of destroying our land to sell contracts to independent oil capitalists is a good plan? Did you think for the first time in our history that the money from the oil would be sold as American and go to your country or relieve the people some how? Don't be a fool.
I can't believe smart people are falling for the idiotic, transparent lies of this woman aswell as these other candidates. And she does not share a stance with R.P.


Transparent lies? How so? Now you are just making up stuff.




posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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Oh you can't even try that..
The last president's grandfather attempted a coup against America and was a fascist that supported the Nazi's. That's right, when president Bush was a baby, the man that bounced him on his knee was a fascist that literally tried to overthrow the American government in a coup de tat.


I know about all that already. Did I not tell you I didn't appreciate Bush's wars? I was up on Bush Skull and Bones and Prescott Bush a long time ago. If you read my posts you will see how often I refer to Antony Sutton who exposed this stuff in the 80s.
I understand that wars are manufactured and that the wealthy finance this stuff.
But war has been with us since well before all that. So please, don't tell me that in your Socialist Utopia there will be no wars.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Her explanation on the increase in gas prices. It's a flat out lie. She is trying to get Americans to back a big oil agenda. Something they wouldn't back in a million years if they weren't being sold snake oil. It doesn't benefit Americans at all to have the land sold and destroyed for oil. That will not magically lower gas prices it will just make more money for oil people. Obama has nothing to do with gas prices. That's a lie. She is lying.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

So please, don't tell me that in your Socialist Utopia there will be no wars.
edit on 2-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)


Ok we are done here if you are going to try to discredit me with name calling and labeling because you can't make a real point.I'm no more socialist than you. I don't support Obama, but I'm not foolish enough to support Palin or any of the republicans either. As of now I support Ron Paul, but he still isn't my dream idealist. I may take some time and lay the ideas that person (that doesn't exist as of now) would have to have.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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Most Tea Party folks have their hearts in the right place I feel. There are honest people that just want to see the best for this country. Those folks are cool.

It's the racists and nutcases that want to shift the burden of everything onto the backs of the working poor within this party, which has now become just a fringe wing of the GOP being pandered to for votes, that are the problem here.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 


Her explanation on the increase in gas prices. It's a flat out lie. She is trying to get Americans to back a big oil agenda. Something they wouldn't back in a million years if they weren't being sold snake oil. It doesn't benefit Americans at all to have the land sold and destroyed for oil. That will not magically lower gas prices it will just make more money for oil people. Obama has nothing to do with gas prices. That's a lie. She is lying.
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What is a lie about it? You are going to have to be more explicit about this besides "thats a lie its snake oil yadda yadda" more leftist rhetoric. Big Oil, ok so it's ok for Barack to spend tax money on Brazil's national oil industry? What freaking turnip truck do you think I fell off yesterday?
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Yep, Vic, they do turn away racists. I have already posted vids of Tea Partiers running out plants with nazi shirts.
Racism is not acceptable. KKK is not appreciated at rallies.
But look what's come out of the Obama admin???? Cmon please be real here. Obama is the first POTUS I've ever seen be completely obviously anti Republican. He doesn't even bother to hide it. How would you expect Republicans to declare him their President when we know he is not.
In fact he may not even be (natural born) American. Do you think it is racist to call him Kenyan when even his wife admits Kenya is his home Country? She has been videod saying, "His home country of Kenya". What else could that possibly mean?
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Barack Obama, who has behaved in a center-right manner from the moment he took office, is anti republican? This man has bent over backwards for the GOP, and not surprisingly since they are all being bribed by the same people.

And the whole Barack not being American stuff is veiled racism...if Obama was a white male like the other presidents, none of the people harping on that issue would think twice about that stuff. Whether his BC is real or not is up for debate, but the folks that are obsessed with it have ulterior motives.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

So please, don't tell me that in your Socialist Utopia there will be no wars.
edit on 2-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)


Ok we are done here if you are going to try to discredit me with name calling and labeling because you can't make a real point.I'm no more socialist than you. I don't support Obama, but I'm not foolish enough to support Palin or any of the republicans either. As of now I support Ron Paul, but he still isn't my dream idealist. I may take some time and lay the ideas that person (that doesn't exist as of now) would have to have.


Because the more we discuss, the more I see why you disagree with the Tea Party. I'm sorry to come off as name calling.
The Left is mad at Obama too beccause he didn't stop the wars. And why didn't he? Is it because he is really a NEOCON in wolves clothing? Or is it because the true leftist agenda was never about being anti war? If it was, Jane Fonda would never have had her picture taken in military gear with the Communist Viet Cong, Sorry had to edit. typo on Koreans..

So how come if Ron Paul says he believes in States Rights his followers bow but if Sarah says it she must be a NEOCON fake?
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Illuminati, BO has been the most partisan POTUS I have ever seen in my lifetime. He is not Centrist at all. If keeping the wars going is centrist, then FDR Must have been too. If giving tax payer money to the nationlized Brazilian oil industry is centrist, then Hugo Chavez must be too.
What exactly is centrist about him? His posturing? His pretending? the silly rhetoric from the podium?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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Nope, sorry it has nothing to do with race. Why do people keep with that silly thing?
Was Colin Powell supporting Obama racist? Was Oprah? Why don't we just get it out in the open?
Shall we talk about Allen West and Herman Cain?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Illuminati, BO has been the most partisan POTUS I have ever seen in my lifetime. He is not Centrist at all. If keeping the wars going is centrist, then FDR Must have been too. If giving tax payer money to the nationlized Brazilian oil industry is centrist, then Hugo Chavez must be too.
What exactly is centrist about him? His posturing? His pretending? the silly rhetoric from the podium?


You can take a look at his policies since he's been office to see that for the most part, he's been in the center-right of the spectrum.

This false idea that Barack Obama is some far left liberal is hilarious, it's an utter fictitious lie...Barack Obama is no more leftist than George W. Bush is. This stuttering, stammering, lying ass clown is a servant of the corporate oligarchy and has caved into the Republicans on almost every issue, angering the left-progressive base that rallied to vote him into office.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Nope, sorry it has nothing to do with race. Why do people keep with that silly thing?
Was Colin Powell supporting Obama racist? Was Oprah? Why don't we just get it out in the open?
Shall we talk about Allen West and Herman Cain?


I think the issues surrounding his birth certificate warrant investigation, but I don't ever recall any of the past presidents of my lifetime being accused of being a non american. It's obvious as to why. Just pointing that out.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Illuminati, BO has been the most partisan POTUS I have ever seen in my lifetime. He is not Centrist at all. If keeping the wars going is centrist, then FDR Must have been too. If giving tax payer money to the nationlized Brazilian oil industry is centrist, then Hugo Chavez must be too.
What exactly is centrist about him? His posturing? His pretending? the silly rhetoric from the podium?


You can take a look at his policies since he's been office to see that for the most part, he's been in the center-right of the spectrum.

This false idea that Barack Obama is some far left liberal is hilarious, it's an utter fictitious lie...Barack Obama is no more leftist than George W. Bush is. This stuttering, stammering, lying ass clown is a servant of the corporate oligarchy and has caved into the Republicans on almost every issue, angering the left-progressive base that rallied to vote him into office.



Well then lets talk about whether Bush is really a conservative? Some of us think of many Repubs as RINO.Bush was a fiscal spender. And that's not ok. I've heard people call Romney a stealth Progressive.
If Obama is centrist, how left is right?

I'm trying to get across something here about the socialists. On their websites and on the communist party websites they admit that they will take any stance as long as it helps their cause. So if being anti war helps them(as it did in the Nixon era) that is the stance they pretend to take. If war helps them (think Libya, Kosovo) then they use it to their advantage.
Look at central and South America, at the marxist guerilla movement there. I know a woman whose family is from Brazil and she talks a lot about how Marxism has infiltrated, and infiltrated the Catholic church.

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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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I gave a long explanation of why it was a lie a couple posts back. I'm not defending Obama I'm saying Palin lied when she said he is the reason gas prices are high. That is not true.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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Show me where she actually believes it should be up to the states. Where she has campaigned on this and not just mentioned it recently to usurp Paul's votes. I want to see. I know it's not true because she is anti choice and anti gay marriage. She would campaign against those things and has rather than campaign to hand it over to the people to decide.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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I gave a long explanation of why it was a lie a couple posts back. I'm not defending Obama I'm saying Palin lied when she said he is the reason gas prices are high. That is not true.


Wait, how do you know she was lying? What was a lie exactly? Please tell me. It's not enough just to say she lied. Or do you say it was all because of speculators? Please, I'd like to know.

And for the record I am not pro Big Oil either. But either oil is capitalist or it is socialist. Pick one
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Why are you harping on about Brazil? What does Hugo Chavez have to do with Brazil or anything else? Also I can't say that I'm completely opposed to helping Brazil. I would love to visit there.. I'd rather us help them than Israel or Pakistan.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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I explained on this thread why gas prices were high. It was a long post. That is what makes what she says ridiculous. She said he caused them to be high, I told the truth and explained why they were really high.

She lied, I told the truth. Getting it yet? How am I not getting through? Do I need to define what a lie is?
Do you need a link to dictionary.com?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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Well obviously if you and Palin think selling oil contracts to destroy American land to get at our own oil will benefit the American people in some way than you wish it to be socialist. Otherwise why would you campaign on that, why would people vote for it and how would it benefit them. You are all over the place do you realize that?



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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Ah yes, I just found your long post about how oil prices went up because of the bad speculators. So it must be the big bad free market that lets Wall Street dictate everything right? More leftist rhetoric, the evil Capitalists.
And you don't see my issue with Barack giving my paycheck to Socialist Brazilian oil companies? Dont B75cg about oil subsidies when Obama gives it to foreign socialized companies.
CASE CLOSED!



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