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Originally posted by astrocreep
If we'd all like to see this topic continue, lets keep the sexual tone down as well as stop the name calling. If this deteriorates into a chit-chat conversation about how hot a porn star looks, then it'll go to chit-chat. I suggest that last post be edited and the slur taken out against the poster of the former topic. That kind of hot headedness might work where you're from but it won't fly here. People can have their opinions and even state facts that you wish kept secret. A persoanl attack when you have no recourse is not the answer on ATS.
Originally posted by Nygdan
What proper recourse is there to some bigot who states that muslims are all rapists?
Originally posted by Hellmutt
"A husband has the right to be intimate with his wife and the wife must obey. If the wife refuses, the rule of nusyus (recalcitrance) can be applied and the husband will no longer be responsible to provide for his wife."
Originally posted by Hellmutt
"A husband has the right to be intimate with his wife and the wife must obey. If the wife refuses, the rule of nusyus (recalcitrance) can be applied and the husband will no longer be responsible to provide for his wife."
Originally posted by Nygdan
If the wife refuses to have sex with her husband the husband doesn't have ot provide for her. This says nothing about being allowed to rape her. If anything, it says you may rather simply stop providing for her.
Originally posted by dusran
Whether this promotes/doesn't promote rape or not isn't the goddamn point.
lesser:
Lets see, starve to death, die of exposure,
Originally posted by Nygdan
Ah, ok. How about I change it to
"The poster named Thinker is not disgraced for raping women either"? Would that be acceptable? Since that is the exact corrolary to what he has said. This....poster states that all muslim men rape european women and don't even care about the rapes, and he makes filthy pigish bigoted statements about an ethnicity that he obviously doesn't like, not just in this thread but in others, and I am the one warned for calling him a pig?
What proper recourse is there to some bigot who states that muslims are all rapists? And irregardless of what that recourse may be, how does that somehow make someone else wrong for noting that they are pigish and bigoted?
Originally posted by astrocreep
Okay, how about you change your attitude or simply sign off this forum.
You made a brutal statement toward someone who stated an opinion largely based in reality, I would add.
Oh, and I did warn him for the one-line repsonses as well, but thats none of your business. The warn stands and is completely justified. Don't like it? Send a complaint to admin.
I moderate the complaint forum as well and I assure you, I will recommend that every other mod/admin view your comments on this topic.
Originally posted by Nygdan
I have stated, specifically, that the supposed 'koranic law' does not support, in anyway, ever, anyone raping anyone else, and in fact is an insistance that normal (for its context) social methods of dealing with marital problems be applied.
Originally posted by Hellmutt
Where does it says "Thou shall not rape" in the Koran?
Originally posted by Nygdan
In the link underconsideration a muslim man is told that if he wife won't fuful her 'wifely duties' that he is excused from supporting her anymore and infact is justified in doing so. This indicates that -raping her- is, if anything, not promoted, and perhaps is a suggestion that doing so is wrong.
'A husband has the right to be intimate with his wife and the wife must obey. If the wife refuses, the rule of nusyus (recalcitrance) can be applied and the husband will no longer be responsible to provide for his wife.'
Islamic leaders and scholars have rejected a proposal by the Malaysian Human Rights Commission (Suhakam) pressing for husbands to be charged with rape if they force their wives to have sex with them.
Originally posted by dusran
This is in fact rape and yes it is happening, its not widespread but it does happen.
Their current law states that if a women refuses to have sex the husband no longer has to provide for his wife not that he can force himself on her.
How can this not be considered an acceptance of marital-rape?
Originally posted by Nygdan
But not all muslims are pro-rape chauvenists, and not all pro-rape cultures are islamic or even arabic.
Originally posted by Nygdan
you filthy little pig.
Originally posted by Hellmutt
I guess "honor killings" is something that happens all over the world.