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Originally posted by NewAgeMan
What you just described is the enjoyment of God's gift that is life itself and thus the enjoyment of God. God doesn't need to insert himself as an intermediary or external entity, only to express his love in mutuality. In this sense God as love deserves love in kind, but love isn't love unless it is free.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by randyvs
I mean that to our perception that is how life and death work. Death, to me, is going to be a lot like before I was born. I wasn't alive and I couldn't experience anything. The difference is, barring some sort of zombie apocalypse , I'm not going to be born ever again after I die.
Penn Jilette from Penn and Teller said it kinda like this in a recent interview with Piers Morgan, I'm paraphrasing here: I'm not afraid of 1890, yet I wasn't alive then, why should I be afraid of 2090?
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
All I have to give vernacular to terms is the information I receive. If atheists and web dictionaries tell me atheist believe there is no god then that is terminology I must accept.
Originally posted by goldentorch
Because I feel joy in life and am able to be moved by other people through art and science etc: why should I ascribe that ability to feel to an outside agency as an intermediatory between myself and the other person's creative and emotional ability to move me. Why do we need this imaginary being interdicting in human affairs.
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by NewAgeMan
You mean like the human sacrafices many cultures did during times of duress.
That all turned out to be pitifull ignorant superstition... as will be your praying when the wind begins to blow. So sit in your straw house and spout your ignorance to all the other sheep so that they will be unprepared and fall dead the moment their faith is taken from them.
I just think it's important to know, what we're looking at, if atheism is correct ?
If I look at the world through the eyes of atheism ? Doesn't man suddenly become far less, than what he has over millennia, come to believe himself to be ? Atheism says, there is nothing spiritual about existence and that man does not have a soul. That anything paranormal is all BS and this mundane existance, has come about for however long. So life is simply a space between two nothings.
Basically, it seems as though atheism, takes the rules of empirical science to far and applies them to life. Science being the study of observable phenomena.
Atheism dosn't believe anything out of the ordinary ever does or ever has happened.
But isn't it out of the ordinary, for mankind to have come into this existence, and make up
a whole part of himself that says the exact opposite? If mankind only evolved some how ? Why would he evolve with a belief in deitys ?
Atheism limits this existance to things it finds rational. But is that even rational ?