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Originally posted by phatpackage
reply to post by libertytoall
You are either extremely naive on what constitutes verified and accepted scientific proof is or you are willfully trying to deceive the ATS community. Benefit of the doubt you choose which one! Also neither is a lie!
..."you are willfully trying to deceive the ATS community"......
Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
Originally posted by lkpuede
...the whole idea that you are a machine is so repugnant to you that you can't even fathom the thought. so repugnant in fact, you will come up with any reason you can to avoid the truth. you are a machine. you cannot accept it. you will find any and all reasons to explain away the perfectly obvious...
Ummm...I'm pretty sure that in my response I agreed with you in saying that humans are very much machine-like. So I'm not sure where you got the idea that I "can't even fathom the thought" of being compared to a machine.
The only disagreement I had with you is that you said that humans are unlike animals in this way. I say BOTH humans and animals are machine-like. It seemed to be your assertion that somehow humans differ from animals in that respect -- i.e., you seemed to imply that humans are like machines, but animals are not.
Originally posted by Kaiuk
Originally posted by anumohi
Originally posted by smallcheese
reply to post by anumohi
You are not aware that there are many other religions which also appear to claim the same?
At this point in time it appears from my seat that most alien believers are doing nothing different than practicing a remarkably similar belief which is identical to a new religion.
I guess we could get into the discussion that there is as much proof of any religious edict as what appears to be rampant in the ET phenomena
Faith that there are aliens are just swapping one god for another.
Perhaps you could explain to me how it is different?
millions of people throughout history have seen and documented seeing UFOs and even claims have been made, including by people i personally know, that have been visited by ET, where as all through history by only just a few claimed to have actually witnessed or spoke to their deity. overwhelming evidence suggests that ET is more factually believable than a several thousand year old perpetuated myth....that's the difference....Seriously
If so many "millions" of people have seen UFO's and your friends have met them, why has there never been one on live tv. why have they never landed on the white house lawn? why is there NO demonstrable proof ( realize that eyewitness accounts are not scientific) that ET has EVER visited this planet? Sure, there are theories but everyone has fifteen theories.
Originally posted by Hessdalen
reply to post by Section31
great post - c&p for my argument collection =)
but i have to do this:
'Unidentified' by 'someone' in the military (globally)? Prove it.
'Unidentified' by 'someone' in the government (globally)? Prove it.
DISCLOSURE PROJECT besides i wouldnt trust military/gov in this subject at all because like you said - black projects & a bucket full of lies...they will give Never A Straight Answere, only if its in plain sight =)
Originally posted by Cobra.EXE
debunkers should be banned from ats. when a country
is comning forward and claiming that there are sightings
up to twenty times a week, then you have no way of denying
especially when they spend money on a 24hr ufo surveillance
mechanism how would there be any nerve in your brain to deny
Originally posted by smurfy
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
The Greeks invented the original meaning of the word machine, God, the Greeks have such a way with words! anyway our resident alien lkpuede, doesn't really understand the different machinations of the word, 'cos he an alien, and he might be a N and B machine, aka a robot. That's different that what we are as biological machines, and lkpuede has more affinity with the nuts and bolt thingys, so you have to understand his/its point of view don't you?
Of course he's accidently right as saying that we have an affinity to dogs and pussys etc; by reason of them being biological machines too.
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
I never thought most accounts were people's imaginations. I think that the majority of people who report sightings are seeing something they generally cannot explain. That doesn't mean it is alien. There are many things that cannot be explained by the average person, because the average person isn't a combination of meteorologist, physicist, experienced in seeing missiles/planes, etc...You would be surprised what atmospheric conditions can do. It would seem almost like magic. That's what people don't seem to understand.
Originally posted by StripedBandit
Wow what a claim to make!
Unfortunately, this is far from hard evidence for the scientific community and, by extension, the majority of society.
Cool video, but a smoking gun it is not.
I would love nothing more than full disclosure and public contact, but this is far from it.
It's this line of thinking that got women burned for being "witches". If we are ever visited by extra-terrestrials, will you be the one who steps out and says, "Burn them! They are demons!" ?
Originally posted by JesusLives
demons are more complicated then you have been led to believe
Originally posted by smurfy
reply to post by yaluk
I think someone needs egimacatered on demons,
I suppose they could be UFOs too!
edit on 22-8-2011 by smurfy because: Text.
Originally posted by jimnuggits
Any technologically advanced civilization would have to communicate cautiously and in very mysterious ways, as a sort of universal IQ test.
If they wanted to remain undetected, they would do so. Thus, the videos and evidence must be communicating something. But what?
Do you realize that major advancements are being made in several scientific fields by what has been interpreted in the crop circles of England and elsewhere.
Do your homework, 'disclosure' happens every day.