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JOINT BASE LEWIS MCCHORD, Wash. - A soldier's widow says his fellow Army Rangers wouldn't do anything to help him before he took his own life - after eight deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Army found Staff Sgt. Jared Hagemann's body at a training area of Joint Base Lewis McChord a few weeks ago.
A spokesman for the base tells KOMO News that the nature of the death is still undetermined. But Staff Sgt. Hagemann's widow says her husband took his own life - and it didn't need to happen.
"It was just horrible. And he would just cry," says Ashley Hagemann.
Ashley says her husband Jared tried to come to grips with what he'd seen and done on his eight deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"And there's no way that any God would forgive him - that he was going to hell," says Ashley. "He couldn't live with that any more."
Originally posted by Arkady
statistically speaking the suicide rate is still lower for soldiers than in the general civilian population. If it's rising it's not because the 'horrors of war' are becoming any more horrible its just that the standards for potential recruits has changed and now young men that are unable and ill equipped to deal with the reality of warfare are being rapidly trained and sent straigt to afghanistan.
I feel sorry for this guy but he probably shouldn't have been in the army in the first place.
Originally posted by BobAthome
first i would like too respond, to the statement "that God would not for give him",
He is forgiven.
He loved God,
loved his fellow man,
he could no longer go against,
what he truly believed in.
Believe in me,, said ,,Jesus,,and you will be mine.
Forgiven,,and then some.
Originally posted by caladonea
reply to post by drew1749
He obviously had remorse and regret......he was in a moment of despair and felt that their was no other way out of his misery.... he was having a nervous breakdown...when he took his own life. I think Heaven will excuse and forgive him...he will have another chance in Heaven.
Originally posted by drew1749
Originally posted by caladonea
reply to post by drew1749
He obviously had remorse and regret......he was in a moment of despair and felt that their was no other way out of his misery.... he was having a nervous breakdown...when he took his own life. I think Heaven will excuse and forgive him...he will have another chance in Heaven.
Hopefully. I believe the position of the Church used to be that Sucide was a sin. Ah whatever this thread isn't the place for it. I'd rather talk about the here and now. How can we improve care for our troops? I guess for starters we can bring them home.
edit on 8/14/2011 by drew1749 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by adifferentbreed
reply to post by Arkady
Grow up son. He did 8 tours, how damn stable did you expect him or anyone else doing that many to be? You have some damn nerve. It's time for Obama and Congress to grow a pair. Either withdraw now ( wouldn't that make the anti American scum on here giddy), or let us win through attrition. It's doable counter to what a lot of the arm chair do gooders here would suggest, simply remove the PC ROE we have now, and release the dogs of war. Either wipe them off the face of the map, or end it by coming home, but enough is enough. Before I get the usual flaming for suggesting such a thing, as I've stated before, 1 of our soldiers is worth more than their entire country of people ton me so spare your bs. Maybe if the asshat in the WH felt the same we'd be done with this nonsense.
Originally posted by gabby2011
I might get into a lot of trouble saying this..but from observance,and the few stories I've been told by people who have experienced military life , there are a lot of games and power trips ,,and little" intiations" , that are perverse,and just wrong. You are considered a wuss,and unworthy of any admiration if you don't buck up like a good soldier, and play along with the little games of torturing prisoners...or whatever their minds tell them is ok.
I feel so sorry for the souls who have been coerced into things, fooled into thinking what they were doing was ok...and having to live with those memories. I personally have heard of quite a few suicides here in the military, and I wonder if those statistics mentioned were based on percentage.