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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I expect our lowest common denominator to arrive and get the thread shut down at some point. I would be elated to be surprised and find different.
Regardless, this all boils down to a poor choice of metaphor in a hypercharged politically correct society. Kandinsky gave the perfect argument for how this is racism, even sublime racism. However, it does nothing to overcome the notion that this gentleman was using a metaphor that is relevant to the culture that was his audience.
In America, when you say "gang", you think most often of male youths, most likely black or hispanic (at least, in my town). "Mafia" conjures up the Italians. "Mafioso" is the Mexican Cartels (at least, around here).
I am unclear on English gang culture, but suspect that it is very similar to the US (for the reasons Kandinsky described). Thus, it would seem that this guy was just commenting on the fact that, in England, it seems that there is an increase of white youths "ganging up" (again, i do not know if this is true).
Was he denigrating black people? Or was he simply observing that gang have, historically (in his culture) been a mostly black phenomenon?
It isn't the words that matter. It is the intent. That is the great folly of political correctness, which is always looking at a dirty, underhanded intellectual jab through the manipulation of word vs. intent.
I riot because I am nobody, nothing, less than nothing I am invisible, a ghost in this city, this country, this world. People don't see me, and don't give a sh#t about me or what's going to happen to me. My parents don't care, my teachers don't care, the politician s don't care, the police don't care; no one gives a fk about me and my life. If people do ever see me, they don't really see me; they just see an anti-socia l, worthless, feral teenager; they see a danger to society, a threat to the peace. If no one cares about me why should I care about anyone else? I riot because no one ever listens
I riot because no one ever listens to me. No one has ever really istened to me; nobody hears what I have to say. But when I riot, it seems the whole world stops and listens. My riot is my voice. It is the expression of my feelings, the sound of inarticulate rage which I cannot express any other way. I don't expect anyone wil understand what I'm saying, I cannot put it into nice words; but I feel the need to say it anyway. I have to let it out somehow, and right now, music, or drugs, or vandalism is not enough.
I riot because I feel powerless every day of my life. I'm not in control of what happens to me other people are always deciding about my life, telling me what's right for me - teachers, cops, social workers, pastors, politician s, media commentato rs. When I riot, I fee powerful, I feel in control. It may only last a few hours, but for those brief moments when I smash something or burn something, I feel like a free person in control of my own destiny. I feel like somebody. When I riot, I feel like a real man.
Originally posted by LexiconV
reply to post by EvanB
From examining the timeline of events the trigger point of the riots was when the 16 year old girl was getting brutally beaten by the police. Why is it that the media across the globe conveniently keeps omitting this point?
The Tottenham area and the surrounding districts have a long history of violent unethical police actions of framing, maiming and killing innocent people with no consequence.
Originally posted by NadaCambia
His comments were racist and anyone who can't see it is also racist.
What he basically said is that good and upstanding black people are so because they've adopted white culture. And that scummy white people are so because they've adopted black culture.
Black culture = bad
White culture = good