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Originally posted by -PLB-
Money has been the best motivator to get people off their lazy asses and build magnificent societies for the past several centuries. Not sure if we would manage without that motivator. I don't think so.
Originally posted by newcovenant
Doing the right thing...that's a motivator. Praise (collective acknowledgement of a success or a good thing done) is the best and cheapest motivator. Ask any kid.
If you changed what you value, ie money to something more substantial like the planet and it's people....the whole paradigm would change.
What should we do with the people who for one reason or another cannot "get up off their lazy asses" say maybe a vet who has lost legs or a handicapped person who no longer has parents to care for them? Shouldn't there be a way for these people to contribute. If your system is all about money you will not incorporate THEM. They will slow you down.
You are right in that it is ingrained and attached to us like a scar...this lust of material wealth.
That is because it is lorded over everyone. Who wouldn't want to be the master rather than the slave and that is essentially the system. A little of each. Masters and slaves. This has worked throughout millennium but now your slaves are revolting.
Originally posted by VikingDude
Money HAS been the greatest motivator for our ancestors. But it was more controllable then. The problem today is the greed which has destroyed this once great motivator.
Money has destroyed today's society though. Greed has let to physical money being almost replaced by digital money. Why is this bad? Because physical money would have a value based on how much of it would be in circulation. Same principle with everything else: oil, gold, spaghetti etc. But when money become digital, they wont have a physical form anymore. So money would only be a number, a number that we base a value upon. And it becomes REALLY dangerous when banks and stock markets earn money on interests or how well the stocks are doing. That money doesn't really exist due to a number of things: they don't have a physical form and they have been made out of the blue so to speak (look at interest rates when you take a loan. The bank makes money of money that it has given out).
For that money to gain a REAL value, it would have to be printed. That would lead to more money out in the system and that's a good thing, right? No, because more physical money would lead to a lesser value of that money (inflation) because it would be easier to acquire due to the larger quantity.
So physical money is better than digital money? Yes, but physical money still has the value that has been given to them by those who make the money. And that is a bad thing as well. Some days ago, news came out about a possible solution to the debt crisis in America. Minting 2 coins valued at a trillion dollars each.
Sure, the coins are going to be made of platinum, but hey, I can take 2 coins of my own, give them a good chrome paint job and claim that their value would be equal to that of the trillion coins, right?
Money WAS the motivator for great societies. And sure, we have benefited from it. But it has been corrupted by power hungry people.
With a different mindset, we could change the whole world. In a society were robots would do all of the manufacturing of goods, people would not have to work nearly as hard as we do now. The society should be based upon prestige and respect for other people. The greatest prestige and respect would be given to those, who actually decide to work, even though they didn't have to.
People can't imagine a society without money because it has been a part of human history for so long. But by changing the mindset of people, and changing the focus of materialistic things, to being part of society and do your best for human kind as a whole, we WOULD save human kind from destroying itself.
Money is only good if EVERYBODY has an equal share of it
Originally posted by objectivist
reply to post by Southern Guardian
i agree its capitalism that is being strangled to support this entitlement state