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The End of Entropy: A Look at Our Entropic World and the Evidence Supporting How We Can Change This

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posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 09:12 AM
Entropy… That measure of disorder that increases as energy is dissipated into unusable forms effects many aspects of our present human condition. It is easy to grasp the principle as it pertains directly to heat. We see the energy of a fire heat our food, but we also can see a great deal of heat going out unused and unusable. This extra heat can be seen as increasing the disorder, as the molecules affected move more rapidly and more disorderedly. A more difficult aspect to see is the entropy inherent in our social structure.

In Jeremy Rifkin’s seminal work Entropy, published in 1980, he does an excellent job of demonstrating that, because energy is at the base of life, itself, entropy can ripple through society, creating disorder even as we try to clamp down and control the order of things. In fact, he paints a very grim picture of what we can expect as we consume more and more energy, explaining that fascist tendencies are most likely to crop up in the efforts to overcome entropy in our society. Today we see more and more signs of encroaching fascism.

The reason why energy and its entropy are tied in to our social structures is made clear by Rifkin in his work (p. 89):

… Every time we add our labor to a product or perform a service we expend energy and increase the overall entropy of the environment. Every time we exchange money for a product or a service, the legal tender we use represents payment for previous energy that we expend. Money, after all, is nothing more than stored energy credits.

If money is merely the accounting of the available energy, it becomes clear that should an energy source come along that has the properties of being effectively infinite, available from anywhere, and negentropic (from “negative entropy”), the need for money dissipates. “Infinite money” has no social application.

In fact, because of our limited available energy and the money system developed to account for it, it is clear why we have a “power” elite, as well as poverty and exploitation. Rifkin explains (p. 57):

Energy is the basis of human culture, just as it is the basis of life. Therefore, power in every society ultimately belongs to whoever controls the exosomatic [external] instruments that are used to transform, exchange, and discard energy. Class divisions, exploitations, privilege, and poverty are all determined by how a society’s energy flow line is set up. Those who control the exosomatic instruments control the energy flow line. They determine how the work in society will be divided up and how the economic rewards will be allocated among various groups and constituencies.

Given this, it becomes clear that if such an infinite, available, negentropic source of energy were to be introduced, power over others would give way to individual autonomous power over self but no others. This can be seen as a major shift in Consciousness on this planet.

This all sounds hypothetical, a waste of time to contemplate even, to the average individual who has been told that we are stuck with the many entropic sources of energy we presently use (which also are sources we have to pay for). “Where is this miracle source?” they might ask.

And here is where I bring up the “Dark” Energy that is now heralded all over science shows about physics and cosmology. This energy, which has been called “radiant energy” (Tesla), “orgone” (Wilhelm Reich), “Zero Point Energy,” and many others, is pervading space. It is within you and within me, around all of us, and is present anywhere we go. Interestingly, though we are told of this energy (usually as “Dark” Energy), no mainstream media (MSM) outlet has asked the most logical question: Can we extract this energy in usable form?

The reasons for this become clear when we look at the fact that those presently in power would have to give up their power over others (having already power over themselves). From the perspective of those few, they would “lose.”

Such an energy source would represent, at least, a virtually infinite source that is available to all. Any attribution of a negentropic aspect comes from reports from a number of sources suggesting that cold, not heat, is the defining characteristic of drawing on this source. These reports and the surrounding research and data have surely been suppressed – at least to the extent of not reporting it and never, ever asking whether we can get something usable from “Dark” Energy. It would be a naïve position at best to expect the present power elite to ignore and NOT suppress and disparage any efforts to develop this source in usable form.

And so, it would appear that we have had methods of extracting usable forms of energy from the “Dark” Energy pool, called the plenum (opposite of “vacuum,” which means “empty” – “plenum” means “full”) for at least 100 years. And we might conclude that the power elite wish to remain in their place of power over others, else they would have released the means to extract usable energy to the public. (There is strong evidence of suppression of many “free” energy devices, from hydrogen-from-water devices through magnetic devices, as well as the Plenum Energy methods.)

The question now becomes, what would happen if we had this energy available to all of us? The answer depends on how we, as a planetary society, approach the matter.

Since we’re examining society, it helps to understand that it moves and emerges in fractal expressions from a relatively small seed set of parameters. Up until now, the fractal seeds of all societies in history have included scarcity of energy (which is reflected in the scarcity of goods and money), and thus we see emerging greed, conspiracy, poverty, power elite, wage slavery and many other ills. If we look for a seed that gives an overarching structure for a society’s development in the advent of having such a source of energy available, and take advantage of what media we can to raise awareness to the tipping point of the goals and precepts we define, the society that fractalizes out of that seed will be strong, healthy, and unrestrictive – provided the seed is geared to that end.

The key things that must be addressed are:

1. A code of conduct
2. Our approach to the Earth and how we bring forth the abundance she has to give
3. How open we will be on code and programs for our machines
4. How necessary work gets done
5. How we communicate and identify the primary issues
6. What focus in life should be stressed

If we seed our society with a code of conduct, calling to the fore the three Laws – which are:

1. Do not willfully harm or kill another Being
2. Do not willfully take or damage another Being’s property
3. Do not willfully defraud another Being

this sets one parameter of the seed to ethics.

If we insist that all farming be organic – in its true sense, and not some trumped up legal definition – our food will grow ever better. If we insist that mining is done with a conscious awareness for retaining beauty and structure, our impact will be small and repairable. If we insist that manufacturing be done such that it is free of pollutants, our planet will remain healthy and abundant. If we are using the Plenum Energy, the energy we use will be clean (and fracture drilling, oil pumping, coal mining, rain forest clearing and other nasty behaviors and consequences associated with petrofuels will be eliminated). If we set this parameter of the seed with the drive to be thoughtful of our planet, our planet will thrive.

If we demand open-source in all technology, we remove fears of machines “taking over.” Code can be looked at, published on the web – and better code will be worked out by those whose bliss it is to program things. A distrust of proprietary code (or any other hidden thing) should be promoted. Such a setting in this parameter of the seed will bring forth the best we can create.

By creating robots to do all the necessary work no one (or not enough people) wants to, we release ourselves to do what we enjoy – we are released from slavery, having cast it off onto our machines. This seed parameter is one only now available to humanity. Never before in our history have we had the option to create mechanical slaves for every “dirty job.” Therefore, it, along with the addition of a negentropic energy source, will provide a frame for unique emergence, a new societal framework, a new consciousness.

With a central website, in forum style, to address major issues – divided into local sections, regional sections and global sections, with “votes” at a certain level elevating the problems and solutions to the next level to be voted on by a greater number – we can collectively coordinate to solve the issues of this planet. This seed parameter will see an emergence of human unity as a race and as a planet.

(cont. ...)

[edit on 2/25/2010 by Amaterasu]

posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 09:13 AM
(... cont.)

Setting a focus of fulfilling one’s own bliss will see very much happier people, and far better results of efforts made – a job is done far better by someone who loves to do it than by one who feels compelled against their main desire. No job will be required to live well, but any job one wants to do is open to be done. I quote again from Rifkin’s Entropy (p. 210) to illustrate the differences between the scarcity paradigm and the new abundance paradigm, as it relates to work:

… [T]he authoritarian structure of the workplace robs the individual worker of a chance to join in a community with his fellows to make decisions and develop his talents. Unable to join with others to explore his potential and creativity, the individual is forced to retreat into a shell in which he has neither meaningful rights nor responsibilities at his work. All he is left with is a job, a place to make money, and a degrading environment to which he must submit, eight hours of every day.

Thus we can see how a seed parameter of encouraging one to follow one’s bliss – since in this new paradigm one can – uplifts each one of us and increases the value of consciousness in society.

Having described the seed, how might it be expected to manifest? One of the first products that is likely to be seen are “power boxes,” which will be sold, initially. These would be units that had a mechanism to draw on the Plenum Energy and outlets to plug in our air conditioners, stoves, heaters, refrigerators, freezers, and so forth. This would allow us to move anywhere and bring our comfort items with us. We could “go camping” and still have our amenities, and many will. Eventually these items will each have their own units within.

As the cost of energy is removed from the production line at every stage, things will become less and less expensive, and at some point, will be given freely.

Other observables will include:

• Money falling into disuse
• Motivation from the heart as opposed to profit
• “Greed” becomes meaningless
• Peace
• Abundance for everyone
• Elimination of corruption
• Power over others supplanted by power over self
• Elimination of GMO’s
• Great reduction in violence
• Creative pursuits increased greatly
• A healed planet
• Reduced or eliminated hoarding
• Value placed on human-created art, textiles and products
• Focus on cures, not patentable chemicals that sicken for profit motive
• Human interaction with only those whose company is enjoyable (reduced social friction)
• Robotic stewardship of the planet
• Increased love and compassion
• Greatly reduced stress
• Wondrous works
• “Live and let live” behavior
• Most “laws” become unnecessary
• Corporate power eliminated
• Products made to last – no “planned obsolescence”
• Waste reduced to virtually nil
• Food nutrition increased for all
• One’s reputation becomes the “coin” one uses
• Personal responsibility for one’s own behavior
• Spiritual growth
• Slavery (outright or wage-slavery) abolished
• Human dignity encouraged
• Increase in charitable behavior
• Self autonomy
• Things are done because someone cares – from raising children to caring for others

From this list, it is clear that many issues we now face will be solved. Wealth will be measured in richness of character, rather than in deposits to a bank account. And we will spend our time doing what we like to do, being with the people we like and share interests with. Inventions, rather than being suppressed, will burgeon, and the “Star Trek universe” may be within our grasp, with things like transporters and replicators emerging.

And spiritual growth and communication will be encouraged as we find a greater amount of our time available to pursue the exploration of our inner dimension.

And though this is not a solution to every issue arising from human interaction – we will always have our personal disagreements – the overall health of society will skyrocket. Yes, we may still argue with others over the smaller issues in our lives, and some may choose to behave violently, but the numbers of occurrences will drop to a level we would consider statistically insignificant. Definitely a vast improvement over what we see today.

In closing, I recommend any who work for someone else and also are privy to information (such as methods of extracting usable energy from the plenum) give strong consideration to coming forth with what is known. In the end, you and all of us will be better off – and even today’s power elite will retain their life style, if not their power over us.

Further reading:

The Abundance Paradigm, by Amaterasu

Another Letter from the Future, by Amaterasu

EDIT: to add ex tags

[edit on 2/25/2010 by Amaterasu]

posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 09:51 AM
Not only do I believe this is possible, but I can see it happening in our lifetime. Everyone wishes for a better world, but if you can't envision it, how will it come to be? The AP actually defines a clear and realistic vision for a new society. I believe that anything is possible as long as we can see it in our minds eye.

If you think "this world is crazy, we cant keep going on like this, something has to be done", but you cant conceive how it will happen, you are setting yourself up for failure.The ego will kick in and say "yeah right buddy, humans are animals and it will always be like this."

What the AP does is clearly define how our future can unfold in a manner that will create a sustainable and peaceful earth where you are free to follow your dreams without the fear of surviving pushing you into a lifetime of doing work that you hate. Unnatural work that creates stress and anxiety.


posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 09:56 AM
reply to post by bringthelight

Thank you, bringthelight. I have been trying to condense the paradigm into something easy to grasp, and quick to read. I think I got close this time. [smile]

posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 10:29 AM
reply to post by Amaterasu

Its just like anything in this world. If you cant conceive it, how can you create it? You suggest some amazing ideas in taking the next step. Everyone would agree our current system is broken, what gives hope is the vision of a new system. One that isnt just promised by people who have previously run the system(broken promises is how they have tricked us to where we are now), but created by the people who were oppressed by it.

This is your lifes mission I believe. A vision that gives people hope. Some thing simple yet amazing. The question is, how are you going to BE this change to demonstrate by example. I have found that this is the only way to teach others.

posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 10:42 AM

Originally posted by bringthelight
reply to post by Amaterasu

This is your lifes mission I believe. A vision that gives people hope. Some thing simple yet amazing. The question is, how are you going to BE this change to demonstrate by example. I have found that this is the only way to teach others.

You got to get down in the mud to demonstrate, applicate. Therein are you high and lifted up. Thats were the real world podiums are. On a fishing boat, a tree stump. Such men are run out of the synagogue.

posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 12:22 PM
Thank you for a great summary and a viewpoint i haven't been familiar with. Seems like a well thought idea.

posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 01:42 PM

Originally posted by bringthelight
reply to post by Amaterasu

This is your lifes mission I believe. A vision that gives people hope. Some thing simple yet amazing. The question is, how are you going to BE this change to demonstrate by example. I have found that this is the only way to teach others.

I value Consciousness, I write what I can, I talk to any who will listen, and I post where I might. I think I am slowly making inroads....

Thanks for bringing this to the fore in my mind.

posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 01:43 PM

Originally posted by above
Thank you for a great summary and a viewpoint i haven't been familiar with. Seems like a well thought idea.

And thank you, as well! [smile]

I am pleased to bring ideas which had never before occurred to others - especially when they hold an answer.

posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 02:04 PM
Good post Amaterasu S&F for you.

Wow that is a little bite out of a big snack! Its interesting and somewhat disheartening to look around as see all the needless waste. It happens all around us, in every facet of your daily life. Fuel, water, food. Our societal structure, especially in the west has made us gluttons. Even the most fastidious and frugal people are far more wasteful than they realize.

This vision of the future is definitely Utopian, but not unrealistic. I would be suspect of any cynical opinion of the future as that person may have something to loose. They might not be one of the "power" elite but they may have a little sliver of power they are afraid to loose.

I work with several engineers and 'scientists' who react quite fervently when I discuss the possibilities of free energy. Obviously they have a bit to loose. Mainly the conception of how their world and society really work. I think they are either afraid of being proven wrong or fear going insane when they find out that the world they live in is a house of cards.

posted on Feb, 25 2010 @ 08:15 PM
Nothings Impossible

Breakthrough energy game changer

posted on Feb, 26 2010 @ 12:27 PM

Originally posted by bringthelight
Nothings Impossible

Breakthrough energy game changer

Frankly, I wish we would just leave nuclear power alone. Regardless of what we do with the waste, it is still deadly...though I have heard there are ways (hidden, as well as the plenum energy) to neutralize radioactivity. Anyway, this does allow additional energy to be drawn from the nuclear fuel spent once.

Thanks for the input! (I was hoping this would go front page here at ATS, but it seems many have nothing to say of this. Heh.)

[edit on 2/26/2010 by Amaterasu]

posted on Feb, 26 2010 @ 01:17 PM
I wasn't too excited that it was of the nuclear nature as well, but a possible energy breakthrough none the less. I was posted it just because it shows that it could happen anyday now. A game changer that would end the human fear of scarcity and survival and allow us to invest our time and attention to self actualizing activities.

Like Maslows hierarchy of needs, it would get us off of the bottom of the pyramid and free up our time to do something we are actually interested in and that gives us purpose.

[edit on 26-2-2010 by bringthelight]

posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 12:53 PM
reply to post by bringthelight

Indeed. As it stands now... Our wage-slavery is us in the matrix, giving power though our minds and bodies. The Plenum Energy would free us from the matrix.

Thanks for your response.

posted on Mar, 5 2010 @ 03:00 PM
That sounds great. Now all we need is an elite team of assassins to kill all the so called elite who would oppose this transition.

posted on Mar, 8 2010 @ 09:44 AM

Originally posted by guyopitz
That sounds great. Now all we need is an elite team of assassins to kill all the so called elite who would oppose this transition.

Unnecessary, and I'll tell you why... There are very few of them, and if we just get Plenum Energy extraction out for all to use, their power will evaporate. They will be left with the lifestyle but not the power over us, and we may choose to elevate our lifestyle to theirs - or any level that pleases us.

posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 03:24 PM
Your consciousness is a beautiful thing. You really have spent some time thinking about this and can see a way through this mess. A central voting system is something I have been thinking about for a while, a workable user interface is the most critical part as it is so easy to get lost in the mass of information. There is another thread looking at a way to raise the level of democracy . This type of solution is the best way I can see for resolving many of the problems going on. It is threads like this that makes me glad for being on ATS, thanks.

posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 06:22 PM
We already have a near-infinite source of energy, one that bombards our planet constantly and for all intents and purposes eternally .... our sun.

If we could but find a way of harnessing the energy, as individuals and in large usable amounts (regardless the weather) we would get to the stage you're describing.

I think two things are going to really set us free as individuals ... a limitless and cheap/free supply of energy, and the ability to convert that energy into whatever form we like, at will .... in other words, a Star Trek type personal replicator.

When these two things become possible THEN the game changes completely.

Good thread

posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:02 AM
*sigh*, sign me up. Sounds beautiful on paper however there are some
issues that will be a big problem if this is ever allowed to happen. You
recommend open source for technology. I agree 100% however for us
to truely grasp this kind of system, we (everyone) would spend all of
our short life spans studying the technologies that result of infinite
energy. Think about it, we would all have to become not just specialized
in one field or profession but we would have study every single one in
order to get rid of greed and distrust. Ignorance is a fertile breeding ground
for those things. It is how we got to where we are now in the first place.

We simply don't live long enough to keep up with the pace of technology
so we tend to trust others to do things for us. For example: Cell phones.
Almost everyone wants one, yet many do not even know what every resistor,
diode, transistor etc., does in the cell phone that enables it to work. Yet
people buy them up like there is no tomorrow. Distrust comes in the fact
that we let others design, manufacture and market them but what else can
a cell phone do besides let us communicate? It enables others to spy on
us against our knowledge. Every call, text and picture is stored on some
computer at the "provider" of the service that can be used by others. The same
thing applies to many things around us.

Yes we can make it work, we would also have to concentrate on extending our
lifespans as a species to truely benefit from such a society. Star Trek, here we

posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 09:33 AM
reply to post by Amaterasu

Thanks, This was an excellent thread regarding a topic that I believe should be at the forefront of discussion and "Disclosure." I thank you for presenting it in a manner that should be somewhat comprehensible to most free thinking people, and that's not easy to do.

In the past, when ask what I felt would be the most important thing to be derived from "disclosure," I've always believed that access to zero-point energy should be first. It has always been my belief, that all the other things would fall into place once this was realized, much like you have described in your this thread. Although, I doubt I could have laid it out as eloquently as you have.

Some 25 yrs. ago, a very wise man told me that precious metals were no longer the real monetary benchmark for the world. At that time, he told me that oil had replaced precious metals, but I think that "energy" would have been a more accurate depiction. Furthermore, I totally agree with your assertion that this technology has been suppressed since at least the days of Tesla, and for the very reasons you've cited in this thread.

It high time that this veil of secrecy be lifted for the betterment of mankind as a whole and not for individual profit. I truly believe that the human race is standing on the cusp of a entirely new reality and it's up to us to demand that it happen. The emergence of zero-point energy receivers and over-unity devices will change our world forever and it couldn't happen a moment too soon.

P.S. With regards to "conservative" sites banning you for this post, I gotta tell you this; As much as I like and agree with the contents of this thread, I could only expect two responses from conservatives. 1.) They are part of the energy for profit paradigm and therefore immediately move to ban your participation for fear of being disclosed, or 2.) They are akin to Jeff Dunham's "Peanut" and "Swish," it went right over their heads.

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