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So You Think "The Rich" Aren't Paying There Fair Share"

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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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You do realize the main reason this system is broken is due to the excess granted the entities you defend? Yes tax the rich at a rate used during the last big financial crisis they created. I think it was around 90% back in the times of the great depression.Then run all their lobbyists out of Wash and elect some people who can pass a constitution test like I did to get through 8th grade. If we did this and then gave tax incentive for domestic job creation with wages that helped recreate the middle class, this country would turn around. Will this happen? No way. The rich and their flunkies have sold the idea they are necessary, much like the fuedal lords did to the serf population.Only once the lords greed has robbed the peons of their daily bread will they throw this yoke off and willingly step into a new one. History does repeat and in general does not lie.
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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thought it was a great comparison which people should have been on board with.

simple fact the lottery isnt money earned or the more they receive from taxing other people

this thread went the way i expected it too decades of communist and socialist programming cant be broken through in one thread.

people really do need to look up communism and marxism



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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You need to look into modern economics and corporate law before you post over your head. Some basic Political science would do you wonders also. In all you are the perfect serf for the new corporate feudal lords. Defend the Lord as from him comes my existance. All who question his take of the crops are treasonous and a burden on the good lord. In all quite entertaining if it was not for the fact there are many like you.
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:59 PM
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i posted over my head? really now?

a bunch of people who want what they didnt earn want to make other people pay simply because they think they havent earned their cash.


with stock portfolios that are worth over 1.4 billion dollars i think i know a thing or 2 about money.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by mustard seed
 


i posted over my head? really now?

a bunch of people who want what they didnt earn want to make other people pay simply because they think they havent earned their cash
with stock portfolios that are worth over 1.4 billion dollars i think i know a thing or 2 about money.


That is the thing about the internet that is so wonderful. Folks who believe they are Billionaires using abstruse analogy to defend an indefensible position.Just one for you to try out.Tell me how a CEO has earned a bonus which totals more than the labor costs?Give me some billionaire inside info on all the hard work that has gone into that bonus money. On second thought just save it and take some of that billion dollar portfolio and make some jobs like you claim your class does....LMAO



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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pretty clear that alot of people who have posted in this thread arent job creators.

it is also pretty clear that those who push for higher taxes on the rich really means that small business earning between 100k to 400k gets his taxes raised and his operating costs continue to rise and yep

he has to let people go putting more people out of work who now arent getting paid

fyi other ways to become rich than running a business its called investing that anyone can do


edit on 31-7-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by mustard seed
 


pretty clear that alot of people who have posted in this thread arent job creators.


And you are? I am hiring ten people at the end of this month. How about you?

Very clear you yourself havent a clue of how the economics of this issue actually operate, as you spew nonsensical talking points about how we have to allow the very richest of


it is also pretty clear that those who push for higher taxes on the rich really means that small business earning between 100k to 400k gets his taxes raised and his operating costs continue to rise and yep


Why are you pretending that being critical of the tax rates of the top 1% of wealth holders related to that demographic in any way?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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What an absolute joke!

Look up marxism? ARE YOU KIDDING?!

NO ONE should be allowed to amass that amount of wealth. The only way that it's possible to have people with such wealth is to have the rest of the people poor. It is also a skewed system. People with more money go to better schools, get better grades, get better degrees and wind up in better jobs, this is a fact. For anyone to argue that a kid from the projects has the same oppurtunities in this system as the son of some uber wealthy banker is delusional, absolutely delusional.

Also what one will notice is that it's mostly who you know these days and connections matter, nepotism, well the guy who goes to the super expensive billionaire school will be making friends with the future CEO of Goldman Sacchs or whatever, another way in which it is skewed.

I have read the entire thread and feel that it is almost as close to trolling as you can get without being explicit about it.

The fact that you even think its okay that 1 per cent controls the majority of the wealth proves that you're not an empathetic person and you are not concerned with the daily struggle of the people oppressed by the psychopathic globalists that you obviously think are just GREAT!



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by mustard seed
 


i posted over my head? really now?

a bunch of people who want what they didnt earn want to make other people pay simply because they think they havent earned their cash.


with stock portfolios that are worth over 1.4 billion dollars i think i know a thing or 2 about money.


I'm just interested why you spend so much time sitting on ats, shouldn't you be out in your yacht banging supermodels or whatever you billionaires are supposed to do? I have a feeling someone is selling porky pies.......



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by mustard seed
 


pretty clear that alot of people who have posted in this thread arent job creators.

it is also pretty clear that those who push for higher taxes on the rich really means that small business earning between 100k to 400k gets his taxes raised and his operating costs continue to rise and yep

he has to let people go putting more people out of work who now arent getting paid

fyi other ways to become rich than running a business its called investing that anyone can do


edit on 31-7-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


Nobody is talking about small businesses but about billionaires like yourself who admit to no job creation with your money only that you leverage monetary positions. And this creates jobs and promotes the general welfare How? Is it wrong for you to pay handsomely for making money using only the change of hands to profit? Is it not a great idea to tax your selfish arse to death unless you put that money to work in the system?
A logging analogy is appropriate. You cant clear cut and not replant.In fact timber companies are taxed if they dont If you are not ¨replanting¨ you deserve taxing. That is how money stays active in an economy not selfish hording.
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posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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yeah you are from the because all those evil rich corporations get alot of stuff from other people.

what people use to called subcontracting which became "outsourcing" every attempt at going after the top has disastrous consequences down the chain.

nothing in this country is made from beginning to end in this country



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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why are you on ats?

for the life i dont get why posters stalk and get obsessed with other posters



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by mustard seed
 


i posted over my head? really now?

a bunch of people who want what they didnt earn want to make other people pay simply because they think they havent earned their cash.


with stock portfolios that are worth over 1.4 billion dollars i think i know a thing or 2 about money.


Wow that's amazing. Your the first billionaire I've ever heard of that had to rely on workman's comp to pay their bills after they were injured. Remember this post from this thread?

Social Security,Medicare,Medicaid WHO is telling the truth? and who is lying? and Budget cuts!!,




broken hand broken foot 12 stitches in my sclap 1 hernia and 2 near fatal hospitalizations. all paid for by the company insurance i had at the time also cobra and workmans comp paid the rest. all zero cost to myself and income provided while i was not able to work.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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IT must really chap your hide that you are getting pwned to all get out in your own thread, with far more detailed and accurate accounts than you have even attempted to offer.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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how skewed can it be when 1 % of this countries population is paying everything else for that other 99%

when their gone? oh where oh where does that cash come from.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by sir_slide
 


how skewed can it be when 1 % of this countries population is paying everything else for that other 99%


But.

They.

Aren't.



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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whose prentending here? the dude who is hiring 10 people thinks raising taxes is a good idea?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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i posted over my head? really now?

a bunch of people who want what they didnt earn want to make other people pay simply because they think they havent earned their cash.


with stock portfolios that are worth over 1.4 billion dollars i think i know a thing or 2 about money.


So, let me get this straight. You personally have stock portfolios worth over 1.4 billion dollars? Or you work in an investment firm that has those portfolios?



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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hello how old am i? lot can change in 20 years



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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but

i am not worthy to speak to so why are you bothering



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