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Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker
Originally posted by bogomil
My alleged shortcomings would thus be, that I oppose ideological fascism in general, which actually is a kind of virtue in democracy.
Doesn't freedom of religion also include freedom of speech? Sounds like your saying it's ok to be religious, but you can't talk about it or share with others .
So in short you just want all Christians to shut up so you and your buddies can rule the world. No need to rush the issue, after all, the saints (Christians) will be delivered in to the hands of the Beast for times, time and half a time. I guess your just getting the boys ready .
Originally posted by bogomil
Originally posted by Mantha
reply to post by bogomil
There is much opposition in this world--Christian or not, we are sinners and hate is among us. If someone wants to be more Christ-like in their heart, and show love freely to other people, why are you riduculing that?edit on 29-7-2011 by Mantha because: (no reason given)
Because parts of christianity are amongst the top-five most abominable fascist ideologies mankind knows of.
And following the old tradition of pushing and pushing, I have the strong impression, that old christian habits die hard. It's STILL about control, dominance and monopoly, and 'the goal justifies the means'.
It doesn't matter how sugar-coated it's presented, the traditional christian methods shine through.
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by Mantha
I don't want to be impolite; I try to make a point of answering all posts addressed to me. But owing to my recent popularity on this and other threads, I don't have the time to answer sermons now.
But do go on preaching at me. Though I will only answer, if you get in the dialogue-mode. And then don't hide this in the midst of bible-verses.
Originally posted by Cor Leonis
reply to post by Revolution9
Thanks Revelation9! Happy to fight the good fight with you!
Originally posted by Mantha
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by Mantha
I don't want to be impolite; I try to make a point of answering all posts addressed to me. But owing to my recent popularity on this and other threads, I don't have the time to answer sermons now.
But do go on preaching at me. Though I will only answer, if you get in the dialogue-mode. And then don't hide this in the midst of bible-verses.
Ignore my sermons. They were not meant for you.
Originally posted by bogomil
Originally posted by Mantha
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by Mantha
I don't want to be impolite; I try to make a point of answering all posts addressed to me. But owing to my recent popularity on this and other threads, I don't have the time to answer sermons now.
But do go on preaching at me. Though I will only answer, if you get in the dialogue-mode. And then don't hide this in the midst of bible-verses.
Ignore my sermons. They were not meant for you.
Then why did you address them to me? Are you using me as a canvass, as a chance to preach.
This little example maybe demonstrates my very critical attitude to missionary christianity.
Before you dust off your feet: 1 Peter 3:15 "But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect"
Originally posted by Mantha
reply to post by Hydroman
Well, I am curious...why is it that you enter a thread that your heart is not in?
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by Revolution9
You wrote:
["Wrong! Christianity wordl wide has been growing and growing in popularity. Just because someone says they follow Christ does not mean they are really following Him."]
You are probably reading some statistic very different from the ones I rely on (I have tried to find the most 'neutral' I could).
Quote: ["What are you so anti-Christ, mate? What is your agenda."]
How on earth have you arrived at the conclusion, that I am "anti-christ"? I am anti-monopolist, anti-elitist, anti-authoritarian, anti-hierarchist, no matter what direction it comes from.
Quote: ["I follow Christ as best I can and I am a much better person for it. I love Him with all my heart because I know who He is and what He did to help humanity."]
This being good for you, doesn't mean it's good for everybody. Learn the difference between offering and pushing.
Quote: ["Have you read the Bible?"]
Obviously this is a rhetorical question, because you answer it yourself
Quote: ["Read it all then you will be an expert on it and can dole out the criticism can't you!"]
I have read the bible, though.
Quote: [" If you read The N.T you will discover that our Saviour has already won The Battle."]
Humouristically joning this circle-argumentation: No, the flying spaghetti monster has "won the battle". Recently.
Originally posted by zarp3333
To all my fellow members of ATS I try my best to love you all regardless of your faith or lack thereof. My belief in Christ as I understand Him; the Son of God, has brought immeasurable satisfaction to my life. It helped me understand that human beings have much more in common with each other than differences.
I have come to understand that earth is the ultimate proving grounds. We are in a constant state of siege and under attack by a force that is much more powerful than any human being.
Nevertheless, we may find joy everywhere we look if we so choose in spite of the fact that we are surrounded by evil acts and evil doers.
Ultimately it was the realization that under the influence of Jesus Christ, as I have come to know him, i have the power to defeat every weapon that is cast at me on this proving ground.
For the record, as a Christian;
1. I have never knowingly harmed another person in the name of my faith.
2. I see no problem with the idea that the earth was created 5 billion years ago.
3. I see no reason why there can be no life outside of earth.
Have a great day!
Originally posted by Hydroman
Before you dust off your feet: 1 Peter 3:15 "But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect"
Originally posted by Mantha
reply to post by Hydroman
Well, I am curious...why is it that you enter a thread that your heart is not in?
I come to these threads because I am looking for truth. Do you have it? As a former "brother" I thought I did. I like to see what people believe and why they believe it. It's very interesting. I find that even among christians there are many different beliefs as to what one needs to do to be saved, whether there is a hell or not, whether the trinity is true or not, whether or not the gifts of the holy spirit are active today, whether or not there will be a rapture and if so at what point, etc. It's strange to me that the living god of these believers doesn't have them straight on what is the correct belief. It's like a free-for-all as to what to believe.
But christianity isn't the only belief system in the world. There are many others, such as Mormonism, JWs, Scientologists, Islam, Hinduism, etc. and they all believe that their belief system is the correct one. They can't all be correct, but they can all be wrong.edit on 29-7-2011 by Hydroman because: (no reason given)
I would say that all belief systems have qualities that set them apart from others. Why would one join one belief system and not the other? Why would one join Islam and not Christianity? Why would one join Mormonism and not Hinduism? Why would one join Scientology and not Universal Unitarianism?
Originally posted by Mantha
Yes but what seperates Christianity from all other religions is the emphasis on love for another person, despite their tresspasses.
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by Mantha
You wrote:
["ARE YOU NOT PREACHING?"]
Depends on how you define 'preaching'. It can be used in such a broad contextual range, that it hardly means the same in different constellations. So please save us from an excursion into semantics and inductive categories.
Such will only derail this thread completely outside topic, which already now is a shadow on the horizon.
Originally posted by Mantha
reply to post by Hydroman
OKAY, then that is what you believe.
Originally posted by Hydroman
Originally posted by Mantha
reply to post by Hydroman
OKAY, then that is what you believe.
Yes, until I can be proven wrong I suppose.