Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by edmc^2
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by edmc^2
Okay dude. I have a challenge for you. This will prove whether or not you are a blind believer. This will prove whether or not you understand why
the Bible is true versus believing the Bible is true based on cultural upbringing.
This has to come from you, so don't go quoting any scriptures, or even look up any scriptures for this answer. Okay?
Here is the question:
Besides our creator, who/what is God?
As to WHO?
He is known by the four Hebrew letter YHWH/JHVH (anglicize) - Many refer to him as Jehovah, some call him Yahweh, Jahveh, Yehowah.
As to what is God? All I can say is that he is the source of all life (matter and energy) a Spirit being.
The CAUSE - or the first cause. The uncreated ONE.
Yep. Just as I suspected. You have no clue what you are preaching about and you are in fact the result of cultural upbringing and peer pressure.
Read this---> www.abovetopsecret.com...
and then this--->www.abovetopsecret.com...
I agree with every word of the Bible (just about), as do you. The difference is, I actually know what it is talking about and you are blindly
believing. Do you know what it means to be a blind believer? Believe me. You are.
edit on 19-7-2011 by smithjustinb because: letter
OK - thanks for the expert analysis, but of course that's your opinion, in the end though God is the ultimate judge.
But to what you said:
Infinity is nothing. Nothing is infinity. If infinity were a measurable quantity, it would be finite. If nothing were a measurable quantity, it
would be something. If infinity were something it would be finite, therefore infinity is nothing. Anything you say about infinity you can say about
nothing, so if you want to doubt this logic and argue with me about it, first say something that holds true of infinity, and realize that it can also
apply to nothingness....
Do you believe that infinity exist? I do.
in any case here's what said on another thread since you brought up "infinity"
Ah, the ultimate question: Who Created the Creator? Who Created God? Did God had a beginning like the material universe?
If you can grasps the following concepts then you will understand my point:
Do you believe based on evidence that there's such a thing as Infinity? I do.
Whether through mathematics or cosmology it can be proven that Infinity exist - for example, space is infinite.
Does this knowledge bother you? True it boggles the mind but can you accept it?
Here's another - the core of the sun is about 27,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit [15,000,000°C]. Can you fathom or even understand such amount of heat?
True it boggles the mind but can you accept it?
Here's another - the biggest star discovered they say has diameter of our milky way Galaxy. Can you fathom or even wrap you brain around on such a
distance? True it boggles the mind but can you accept it?
I can cite many more - but the point is, if you're able to accept such mind boggling, almost impossible to comprehend wonders of the universe - why
is it impossible to accept that such a being exist?
A being that the Bible says who has no Beginning and No End - fact is the scriptures calls him King of Eternity.
“Now to the King of eternity, incorruptible, invisible, [the] only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.” (1 Timothy 1:17)
So the answer to the ultimate question about who created God is: NO ONE - He Always Existed!
If not - what's the alternative?
Either God does not exist thus ALL of these came into existence by unguided process or that someone created the creator - thereby creating an unending
question of who is the real Creator?
But the Bible simply states the simple fact that God always existed - noone created him.
Isa 43:10 -ASV: "Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:
before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me."
Impossible you say. If so is Infinity impossible?
As for substituting a name for God (YHWH - Jehovah / Yahweh) you can do that but does this mean to you then that he exist? But right now we know him
as Jehovah or Yahweh/Yawveh.