Now before I start this thread, Id like to point out that several people may take this thread the wrong way and think im directly attacking Muslims. Im not, in any way shape or form. Simply put, I AM attacking the Jihad. I have absolutely nothing against their culture, ideas etc. When I start having a problem is when they start to carry out the Jihad and start to attempt to force the entire world into believing in their religion. For those of you that do not know, the Jihad is a pillar of Islamic faith in which ALL Muslims believe in, not just some crazy group of extremists. The Jihad is the world take over by Muslims, enforcing Sharia Law in all corners of the globe and to FORCE all people to convert to Islam. The Qua'raan explicitly states that anything and everything goes when it comes to the Jihad (forcing people into Islam) from killing, to lying, to.. well anything. For everyone that thinks im just talking out of my behind and im full of it- im going to show you a ton of verses taken directly out of the Qua'raan itself, exposing the true violence and ideas behind the Jihad, and sometimes in itself, Islam. Now im not trying to sit here and bash Islam. Seriously. Nothing makes me more mad then the guy that says "wow, your an Islam basher". Or "your just trying to inject fear and make people scared of Islam with propaganda". NO. The reason behind this thread is to make people realize that the Jihad is very real, and its progressing, so be prepared. People loose wars when their unprepared and don't see it coming. Now im not saying war in a violent term, although the Muslims are prepared to use violence if necessary. Right now its strictly political, thank god, besides all the suicide bombings which is done in the name of the Jihad. We can halt the Jihad by simply keeping back the take over from the inside out with protest and other political maneuvers by electing officials who see where all of this is actually going. Now im going to include some verses from the Qua'raan and Haddith in which people can see the sheer violence which makes me fear for my families safety

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay the idolators (non believers) wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter of idolators [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similtudes. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,"

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"

These verses are from the Haddith, another Muslim holy book.
The Haddith is considered EQUAL to the qua’raan

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite.'"

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid

Now that you can see the violence that im speaking of, it kind of blurs the line between the "extremists" and "non extremists" as these are the words that every single muslim man woman and child reads. According to the qua'raan what we label as "extremists" are actually considered "good Muslims". The Jihad is obviously in effect because of all the world news popping up about sharia law trying to be forced, usually being "demanded". All the suicide bombings all over the world. Once again, im not against Muslims, their beliefs are their god given rights. But once they try to force their religion on me and get violent carrying out martyrdom worldwide, killing thousands, if not hundreds of thousands- this is when I have a problem.

I can surely understand your position and I do agree with some of your post to an extent. However, I do not think that most of these people (you refer to them as "they") have it in them to form some mass Jihadist Army. While I do not believe our cultures want or value the same things I think people in general are lazy and want to be left alone. These are the same scriptures that have been out for a while. I am not worried about the Holy War rolling through my neighborhood any time soon.

I was raised Christian, I know little about Muslims.

Most Christians I know *excuse* their violence because they think it's justified...do Muslims do the same?

In my world, mostly Christian, I fear Christian violence far more than Muslim violence.

Jihad on Syria is next.
Then Iran I guess?

And the bible states that women shall not speak in the church. -.-'

Any religion that promotes violence or justifies wars is not from our creator. We are all created by our God, why would he want his creations destroyed?

Those verses from the Quran are offensive and any Muslim who doesn't believe in violence should also be offended by those verses. How can Muslims justify their religion as being peaceful when their own book glorifies it?

All religions are judgmental and have blood on their hands. Soldiers use God's name to keep them safe in battle, yet they're going out and killing his creations. These same religions will point to God's ten commandments, yet they go against the "I shall not kill" commandment. No where in that commandment does it say "I shall not kill but only in wars." Religions and governments justify war for their own gains and think God is backing them in battle.

This type of reasoning is skewed.

If you believe Jesus Christ walked this earth to show us how to live in peace, forgive, love one another, and not be judgmental, than why would anyone want to join the military to kill our fellow man?