Originally posted by depth om
reply to post by wcitizen
we need a plan, not this righteous chaos BS.
a plan would come in handy as it allows for a broader perspective
yet let us not undervalue small and little organized actions
allow me to trow in just one example
a western european, still pretty rich country where people politically fight over non-issues
next year there will be local elections... city counsels, the whole cirque
a socio-political atmosphere that is turning more right wing
a local city town major understood the need for some profiling, those things tend to pay off at elections
so he admittedly invented some "troubles that might one day come to our city" and came up with a list of them, with the fines the young (who are
targeted, of course) will have to pay if
1. they carry devices that make music in a public park
2. they use those small motorbikes (that go 20 mph or something like that) to come to that public park
This action was not called for by any real event happening and didn't seem to bother the others much (egocentrism has many faces.... I'm not a
youngster anymore.... I don't live there...) so i decided to take action.
I'm over 35, pretty well networked both in bizznizz and politics (both fields see me as that unavoidable maverick they have to deal with for some
reason i refuse to understand) and (as a result?) i turned grey already.
I'm not a biker but I'm affiliated with a bikers' club. no though guys - although their outfits try to make us believe otherwise. A nice group of
people from the same few small rural towns with different socio-economic backgrounds. The leader of the gang is an officer of the vice squad of
I arranged a ride for the gang, to that troubled city, to the park. 120 fat guys on bikes, 2 cops in that park. Local press loved it.
Does this change the world?
At best it might have changed the thinking of the people witnessing the scene, maybe even of those cops, for at least a few seconds. It might help
them to realize what stupid game that # is playing on the youth (btw. they didn't reply to the provocation by the major, which i find impressively
positive) and on those cops.
Next thing we're working on, with the assistance of local young people, is an event in that park to bring them together with local organizations and
small commerce. An event that must underline who little the differences are, how much there is in common.... a real enemy, for example.
oh, my ideas on the ANON debate...
Are they playing in the hands of governments? Most probably they are.
Should we morally condemn them for doing so? For sure not, unless of course one beliefs that ANON is a govt. project. I find this position hard to
hold as a lot is actually known about them (sorry, too tired and lazy to include links) and from that there are no signs, at least not to me.
Are they needed by govt. to increase control over the web (forget internet, it's about the web, where the ordinary people flock together... why are
websites pulled down for IP infringement while that's almost become the reason for existence of usenet)? Nope, not at all.
It doesn't matter if it is technically feasible to "kill the internet". That is not going to happen as Return on Investment of huge economical
fractions would be impacted in a negative way.
If you put things in a broader perspective, what's happening is the natural cause of things... the economical interest of the web has become too
significant to not regulate and control it. Once the kindergarten of alternative, geeky folks like myself, exchanging data on listservers and bulletin
boards and web fora, the web has been taken hostage by commerce and turned into a shopping mall and a place where we can flea each other virtually.
That's a wonderful thing for govt. unfortunately the ease of use and speed and reach of the web can me used to mobilize as well. This is what govt.
likes a lot less - unless it's happening in a country where a change of regime would benefit our bizznizz, of course.