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Originally posted by Fromabove
the minute the mullah says, " Kill the Christians, Kill the Jews, riot in the streets ! " They will obey, and they will do so as if their god allah were saying it himself. They have no choice. If you read the Quran you'll see what the commands are and what they "must" do.
Originally posted by Fromabove
There are no ordinary muslims. They are Borg, they are one.
Originally posted by JAGx1981
I'm tired of listening to Muslims complain, period,
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by JAGx1981
I'm tired of listening to Muslims complain, period,
There are no muslims in this thread complaining.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by JAGx1981
I'm tired of listening to Muslims complain, period,
There are no muslims in this thread complaining.
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Originally posted by Fromabove
The average muslim on the street might want to just live a somewhat normal life working, being with family, etc. But the minute the mullah says, " Kill the Christians, Kill the Jews, riot in the streets ! " They will obey, and they will do so as if their god allah were saying it himself. They have no choice. If you read the Quran you'll see what the commands are and what they "must" do.
Democracy to a muslim is a strange thing. They neither grasp nor understand what it is. There is only the mullah, the quran, and the appointed king.
Is doesn't matter what they think terrorism is, because they cannot go against the mullahs or the quran. If they say hamas are terrorists, and hamas has the decree from the mullah by a " fatwah ", that muslim who does so may be freely killed for such words.
Islam is a force. It allows no independent thought. It is slavery. They are all in their own little prisons with no hope of getting out.
In ending and o point I will tell you what terrorism is. It is the intention infliction of fear in order to make the object of the fear comply. Islam inflicts fear to obey, fear to live under it's law, fear to bow to the few who rule by decree. This is why their emblem is the sword. Need any more be said ?
Who the heck follows a "mullah" if not from Iran or adhering to the Shi'i doctrine? I'm muslim and have NEVER had a mullah.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by Fromabove
the minute the mullah says, " Kill the Christians, Kill the Jews, riot in the streets ! " They will obey, and they will do so as if their god allah were saying it himself. They have no choice. If you read the Quran you'll see what the commands are and what they "must" do.
This dehumanizes muslims making them look like borgs who are ready for violence at the push of a button. As you could see in the stats polled, shia and sunni, turks and pakistanis have very different views of what is to be done.
Your average muslim family is very different from your skilled and trained warrior. What is it in people that resists discernment?
Originally posted by Fromabove
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Originally posted by Fromabove
The average muslim on the street might want to just live a somewhat normal life working, being with family, etc. But the minute the mullah says, " Kill the Christians, Kill the Jews, riot in the streets ! " They will obey, and they will do so as if their god allah were saying it himself. They have no choice. If you read the Quran you'll see what the commands are and what they "must" do.
Democracy to a muslim is a strange thing. They neither grasp nor understand what it is. There is only the mullah, the quran, and the appointed king.
Is doesn't matter what they think terrorism is, because they cannot go against the mullahs or the quran. If they say hamas are terrorists, and hamas has the decree from the mullah by a " fatwah ", that muslim who does so may be freely killed for such words.
Islam is a force. It allows no independent thought. It is slavery. They are all in their own little prisons with no hope of getting out.
In ending and o point I will tell you what terrorism is. It is the intention infliction of fear in order to make the object of the fear comply. Islam inflicts fear to obey, fear to live under it's law, fear to bow to the few who rule by decree. This is why their emblem is the sword. Need any more be said ?
Who the heck follows a "mullah" if not from Iran or adhering to the Shi'i doctrine? I'm muslim and have NEVER had a mullah.
Ok.. ok.. lets call him the cleric, the guy in the mosque.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by Fromabove
There are no ordinary muslims. They are Borg, they are one.
The variety of muslims is similar to the variety of Christians. Could you imagine evangelical protestants uniting with Catholics? Probably not. And the diversity is a good thing, otherwise Borg-ism does arise. There are HUNDREDS of different muslim sects and variations. There is no such thing as "the" muslim.edit on 28-6-2011 by Skyfloating because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Originally posted by Fromabove
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Originally posted by Fromabove
The average muslim on the street might want to just live a somewhat normal life working, being with family, etc. But the minute the mullah says, " Kill the Christians, Kill the Jews, riot in the streets ! " They will obey, and they will do so as if their god allah were saying it himself. They have no choice. If you read the Quran you'll see what the commands are and what they "must" do.
Democracy to a muslim is a strange thing. They neither grasp nor understand what it is. There is only the mullah, the quran, and the appointed king.
Is doesn't matter what they think terrorism is, because they cannot go against the mullahs or the quran. If they say hamas are terrorists, and hamas has the decree from the mullah by a " fatwah ", that muslim who does so may be freely killed for such words.
Islam is a force. It allows no independent thought. It is slavery. They are all in their own little prisons with no hope of getting out.
In ending and o point I will tell you what terrorism is. It is the intention infliction of fear in order to make the object of the fear comply. Islam inflicts fear to obey, fear to live under it's law, fear to bow to the few who rule by decree. This is why their emblem is the sword. Need any more be said ?
Who the heck follows a "mullah" if not from Iran or adhering to the Shi'i doctrine? I'm muslim and have NEVER had a mullah.
Ok.. ok.. lets call him the cleric, the guy in the mosque.
Again, he, has no authority. Not sure if you knew, which obviously you don't but most muslims don't even attend just ONE specific masjid. Whichever is the most convenient at the time where we're going. That "adhering to one imam" is an eastern thing. Your statement might apply to THEM but not us in America.
There is no clergy in Islam.
Originally posted by Fromabove
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Originally posted by Fromabove
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Originally posted by Fromabove
The average muslim on the street might want to just live a somewhat normal life working, being with family, etc. But the minute the mullah says, " Kill the Christians, Kill the Jews, riot in the streets ! " They will obey, and they will do so as if their god allah were saying it himself. They have no choice. If you read the Quran you'll see what the commands are and what they "must" do.
Democracy to a muslim is a strange thing. They neither grasp nor understand what it is. There is only the mullah, the quran, and the appointed king.
Is doesn't matter what they think terrorism is, because they cannot go against the mullahs or the quran. If they say hamas are terrorists, and hamas has the decree from the mullah by a " fatwah ", that muslim who does so may be freely killed for such words.
Islam is a force. It allows no independent thought. It is slavery. They are all in their own little prisons with no hope of getting out.
In ending and o point I will tell you what terrorism is. It is the intention infliction of fear in order to make the object of the fear comply. Islam inflicts fear to obey, fear to live under it's law, fear to bow to the few who rule by decree. This is why their emblem is the sword. Need any more be said ?
Who the heck follows a "mullah" if not from Iran or adhering to the Shi'i doctrine? I'm muslim and have NEVER had a mullah.
Ok.. ok.. lets call him the cleric, the guy in the mosque.
Again, he, has no authority. Not sure if you knew, which obviously you don't but most muslims don't even attend just ONE specific masjid. Whichever is the most convenient at the time where we're going. That "adhering to one imam" is an eastern thing. Your statement might apply to THEM but not us in America.
There is no clergy in Islam.
let me ask you this, when a Fatwah is given, who obeys it ? Are you telling me that muslims can just disregard the quran willy nilly, not even attend mosque (prayers are commanded by the prophet), and ignore the clerics ?
edit on 28-6-2011 by Fromabove because: (no reason given)
The Wahhabis were but one sect among a back-to-the-roots movement in Islam that had limited attraction overseas. But that began to change, first with the flood of oil money in the 1970s, which filled Saudi coffers with billions of petrodollars. Next came the Iranian revolution and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, in 1979. Most ominously for the Saudis, however, was a third shock that same year: the brief but bloody takeover by militants of the Grand Mosque in Mecca.
Threatened within the kingdom, and fearful that the radicals in Tehran would assert their own leadership of the Muslim world, the Saudis went on a spending spree. From 1975 through last year, the kingdom spent over $70 billion on overseas aid, according to a study of official sources by the Center for Security Policy, a Washington think tank. More than two thirds of that amount went to "Islamic activities"--building mosques, religious schools, and Wahhabi religious centers, says the CSP's Alex Alexiev, a former CIA consultant on ethnic and religious conflict. The Saudi funding program, Alexiev says, is "the largest worldwide propaganda campaign ever mounted"--dwarfing the Soviets' propaganda efforts at the height of the Cold War. The Saudi weekly Ain al-Yaqeen last year reported the cost as "astronomical" and boasted of the results: some 1,500 mosques, 210 Islamic centers, 202 colleges, and nearly 2,000 schools in non-Islamic countries.
Key to this evangelical tour de force were charities closely tied to Saudi Arabia's ruling elite and top clerics. With names like the Muslim World League and its affiliate, the International Islamic Relief Organization, the funds spent billions more to spread Wahhabism. The IIRO, for example, took credit for funding 575 mosques in Indonesia alone. Accompanying the money, invariably, was a blizzard of Wahhabist literature. Wahhabist clerics led the charge, causing moderate imams to worry about growing radicalism among the faithful. Critics argue that Wahhabism's more extreme preachings--mistrust of infidels, branding of rival sects as apostates, and emphasis on violent jihad--laid the groundwork for terrorist groups around the world.
Princely giving. If the Saudis' efforts had been limited to pushing fundamentalism abroad, their work would have been cause for controversy. But some Saudi charities played a far more troubling role. U.S. officials now say that key charities became the pipelines of cash that helped transform ragtag bands of insurgents and jihadists into a sophisticated, interlocking movement with global ambitions. Many of those spreading the Wahhabist doctrine abroad, it turned out, were among the most radical believers in holy war, and they poured vast sums into the emerging al Qaeda network. Over the past decade, according to a 2002 report to the United Nations Security Council, al Qaeda and its fellow jihadists collected between $300 million and $500 million--most of it from Saudi charities and private donors.
Originally posted by Unity_99
Here is a look at the sophistication and beauty of a huge segment of humanity, and I only wish, that freedom would prevail, religions or spiritual pursuits seen as that which nourishes the soul, and gives respite, but not a way of life, custom, law, and institute for justice. That their culture can be appreciated by the world, their music, which is beautiful, dance, (I love belly dancing), much the way, Greece, has its own culture, Italy, Portugal. Why is it that we are living in a world with so much fascism? And why assume there are not large numbers aware, who can't change things that the bloodlines dictate, anymore than we seem to be able to affect our leaders here?
Society, culture, humanity is the most fascinating study there is, lands and people.edit on 28-6-2011 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)