'I'M the one who Googled chloroform': Casey Anthony's mother drops a bombshell as she testifies , page 3
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reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 09:52 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by angeldoll


No one has ever said she died of chloroform. That is speculation. There is no official cause of death. The remains were just bones (none of which indicated injury).

So the search is damn near meaningless.



reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 09:57 AM by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by ladyinwaiting


I don't think she murdered her. I think it was an accident due to negligence and she didn't know what to do and covered it up.

If you listened to the testimony of world renowned forensics expert Dr. Werner Spitz (who worked on the JFK and MLK assassination cases) he believed that the duct tape was placed on the skull after it had already decomposed.

This is why I'd be terrified to go on trial in America. People are so ready to condemn without paying attention or knowing the details.

P.S. the Tat was beautiful life.. for all you know she got it in some weird sense of mourning in remembrance of her daughter. IE her daughter was a "beautiful life" or despite the bad life was still beautiful. People act very strange when mourning. We just don't know.
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reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 10:15 AM by CobraCommander
Originally posted by angeldoll
reply to post by CobraCommander


If a child died from chloroform, and google indicated a search for "how to make chloroform" was performed 84 times, shortly before her death, you don't think that is worthwhile information from google?


No.

Useful for an investigation. Not for a trial.


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 11:10 AM by karen61057
reply to post by WhoDat09


She is a grieving grandmother but she is also a mother and she does not want her daughter to be put to death. According to Cindy ( and I have followed this case very closely since July of 08) she could only log in about 40 hours a week and so would back out hours when a day put her over 8 hours. She claims that there are times when it is shown that she was on the schedule at work but she was not really there. I dont think she did those searches but I also dont know how the prosecuition can show that she is lieing.


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 11:13 AM by karen61057
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


It doesnt even matter apparently. The state is saying that she researched and planned the murder of her child using chloroform and duct tape as the murder weapons. I do not think the state has proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt. I also seem to be in short company with that opinion. Anyone else think the state has fallen short of proving premeditated murder?


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 11:17 AM by karen61057
reply to post by BlackStar99


A distraction from what?
I do wonder why this case became what it did. It should have been a local news event at the most but for some strange reason became an international news story. Any thoughts on why this is?


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 11:21 AM by karen61057
reply to post by CobraCommander


So true.
I've followed this case very closely since the begining and I have searches for chloroform, how to make chloroform, rates of decomposition in different environments, death bands on hair, coffin flies and numerous google earth searches of central Florida to get a feel for the terrain where she lived. This coupled with searches for UFO disclosure, quantum physics, the secret, witchcraft, Islam, the vatican, Dan Brown etc... A search of my hard drive would reveal a very interesting or very sick person. Take your pick.


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 11:25 AM by karen61057
reply to post by BlackStar99


I'd call constant coverage a high profile case. Perhaps you can visit your neighbor who has a TV set?


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 11:33 AM by karen61057
Originally posted by Thunderheart
reply to post by sbctinfantry

This is one messed up family, possible incest, the brother is probably the little girls daddy, the dad was probably sexing the entire family.
The mom will do or say anything to keep her insane whore, daughter from the gas chamber.
The only normal person in this whole mess is little Kailey


Ok you cant come in 30 minutes after the movie starts and assume you know whats going on LOL.
The brother is not the little girls father. DNA tests prove that. ( although says a lot about what they were thinking when they ordered the test) Casey was a normal 21 year old as far as her sex habits go. Every girl who's had more than one partner is a whore ? What century did you pop out of ? And lastly its Caylee not Kailey and I dont hold out too much hope for what she might have turned out to be had she been raised and allowed to grow up within that family.


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 11:37 AM by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


On the other hand, people aren't stupid either. Although I agree with people behaving unexpectedly at times during bereavement, I am questioning her behavior BEFORE the child was dead, as well.


One must ask "what would a reasonable person do?". In the event a child who has drowned, or stopped breathing, a reasonable person would commence life saving efforts, while waiting for paramedics to arrive. A reasonable person does not place duct tape on a dying or dead child, place the child in a trunk of a car, and then dump the body in a garbage bag. When this is done, something is greatly amiss. There is obviously foul play, and in this situation, the mother has caused her ownself to tbe focus of the homicide investigation, due to her own lies and conduct.

As to the chloroform, unfortunately there wasn't enough soft tissue left to determine the cause of death, but it doesn't take any particular medical knowledge to arrive to the conclusion that suffocation was a contributing factor, and probably THE coupe de gras. One does not place chloroform on a child, any child, unless the motivation is to quiet, or to render unconscious.
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reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 11:48 AM by karen61057
Originally posted by angeldoll
reply to post by CobraCommander


If a child died from chloroform, and google indicated a search for "how to make chloroform" was performed 84 times, shortly before her death, you don't think that is worthwhile information from google?


There is no proof that Caylee died from chloroform. The ME said homocide by undetermined means. The fact is the state is using this google search to try and make a murder case not the other way around.


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 11:53 AM by karen61057
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Honey! The woman is not facing the death penalty because of a google search. She is facing the death penalty because of murdering her daughter. There is a body. It had duct tape over her mouth and nose. It was abandoned in a garbage bag 15 houses down from her own residence. She is out partying the nights away and gettin a tattoo which reads "life is good", (or something) while her daughter is reportedly missing. That's the case.

There's other evidence, the google search is supporting evidence.

You're getting all off in the wrong direction about this. As someone else said, they can get a computer via search warrant. They do it all the time when they have probable cause. Would you prefer they never catch child pornographers?

A word of advice: You are admonishing several people who have posted on your thread. In other words, you are killing your own thread. Sometimes a thread takes a life of it's own. You just have to go with the flow..........
Peace.
edit on 6/26/2011 by ladyinwaiting because: (no reason given)

The fact is we dont know why the duct tape was put over her face or even when. One expert says before decomp another says after. The tape could have been to prevent leakage or to prevent her mouth from falling open. (google the O factor ) or it could have been applied to keep bugs out of her mouth and nose after she was already dead. Fact is we've been inundated with the states side of this case for three years and are just now getting another opinion of what might have happened and both sides need to be looked at carefully as there is a life at stake here.


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 12:05 PM by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by karen61057


I agree that BOTH sides should be looked at carefully. Let me ask you a question just out of curiosity.

Do you believe OJ Simpson killed his wife and her friend?


reply posted on 26-6-2011 @ 12:35 PM by showintail
Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by BlackStar99


A distraction from what?
I do wonder why this case became what it did. It should have been a local news event at the most but for some strange reason became an international news story. Any thoughts on why this is?


I would say its a combonation of things. Casey herself being the main one. Her stories of "zanny the nanny" leading law enforcement into universal studios to a building and then informs them "oh. I dont work here" the constant lies, not reporting her child missing. She never did. Her mother did. 31 days later.

The list goes on. The whole family is full of it. The grandma yelled at the 911 operator that it smelled like a dead body in the car, just to later say it was pizza. Suprised they havent been arrested.

Also, consider florida has the sunshine law? Where everything is released to public basicly. So we have a real ins%ght into yhe investigation and evidence.
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