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'I'M the one who Googled chloroform': Casey Anthony's mother drops a bombshell as she testifies

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posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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What you have to understand is that whenever a murder or a suicide happens, the suspect or suicide victim's computer is always checked by police to discover something that could lead to a full disclosure of why and how something happened.

With people who commit suicide, their search logs online usually come up with sites that advise on how to do it or chatrooms where people talk about how they wanna kill themselves.

They usually do this by searching the hard drive itself, not by asking Google or anything that might scream out "police state" as you suggested/hinted at.




posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by bhornbuckle75

Originally posted by WhoDat09

Originally posted by showintail
Whoa! Slow down buddy! The family computer was seized with a search warrant, and the internet history was taken off the hard drive.


And yes, casey mom was at work that day, and is lieing. Ive watched these people since "day 31". All they know how to do is lie.


I agree, I have followed this case not very closely most of the time, but since the trial started I've followed it pretty closely. I have to agree with you here that computer was taken three years ago, and the searches for chloroform were deleted, yet Cindy didn't even know which browser she was using and she can remember a pop up ad that popped up three years ago?!!? It's the most ridiculous thing I've heard that she (Cindy) did those searches!! She is a liar, and here I thought she was a grieving grandmother ...pfft!!

I'm sorry for that, this trial just makes me crazy!!!


She could be a grieving Grandmother...but she's also a grieving Mother! She may hate her daughter for what she did, but she could still love her..... human emotion is complex like that. I see no problem with believing that she may lie for her daughter, even if she is horrified with what she has done...it's just human nature. Did you ever see that interview with Jeffrey Dahmer and his father? [Here's a link...I don't think it's the one I was thinking of, but it's of his father, and is apt because he speaks of still loving his son, and supporting him www.youtube.com... ] It was obvious there was still a lot of love between the two of them, despite what had happened. (Now don't get me wrong...I think it's totally wrong for the mother to lie about this in this instance....but I'm only suggesting that I...at the very least....understand it.
edit on 26-6-2011 by bhornbuckle75 because: Added Link


Oh absolutley! I would probably do the same for my child. What gets me is how casey is allowing her defense team to throw her dad under the bus.

One does not sit in jail for 3 years without at least trying to explain it was an accident imho. She claimed caylee was alive, tearing her moms heart out, up until they found the body. I feel for the grands. And believe they are just trying to keep their child alive.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by showintail

Originally posted by bhornbuckle75

Originally posted by WhoDat09

Originally posted by showintail
Whoa! Slow down buddy! The family computer was seized with a search warrant, and the internet history was taken off the hard drive.


And yes, casey mom was at work that day, and is lieing. Ive watched these people since "day 31". All they know how to do is lie.


I agree, I have followed this case not very closely most of the time, but since the trial started I've followed it pretty closely. I have to agree with you here that computer was taken three years ago, and the searches for chloroform were deleted, yet Cindy didn't even know which browser she was using and she can remember a pop up ad that popped up three years ago?!!? It's the most ridiculous thing I've heard that she (Cindy) did those searches!! She is a liar, and here I thought she was a grieving grandmother ...pfft!!

I'm sorry for that, this trial just makes me crazy!!!


She could be a grieving Grandmother...but she's also a grieving Mother! She may hate her daughter for what she did, but she could still love her..... human emotion is complex like that. I see no problem with believing that she may lie for her daughter, even if she is horrified with what she has done...it's just human nature. Did you ever see that interview with Jeffrey Dahmer and his father? [Here's a link...I don't think it's the one I was thinking of, but it's of his father, and is apt because he speaks of still loving his son, and supporting him www.youtube.com... ] It was obvious there was still a lot of love between the two of them, despite what had happened. (Now don't get me wrong...I think it's totally wrong for the mother to lie about this in this instance....but I'm only suggesting that I...at the very least....understand it.
edit on 26-6-2011 by bhornbuckle75 because: Added Link


Oh absolutley! I would probably do the same for my child. What gets me is how casey is allowing her defense team to throw her dad under the bus.

One does not sit in jail for 3 years without at least trying to explain it was an accident imho. She claimed caylee was alive, tearing her moms heart out, up until they found the body. I feel for the grands. And believe they are just trying to keep their child alive.


Fair enough....honestly I haven't followed it all that closely as to know all that's gone on in the case. I know such cases can get quite ugly at times....I'd have to read up a bit if I wanted to make any further comments about the dad. And to be honest, I think I would also probably be tempted to lie if I was somehow in a situation like this...though I'd still think it's wrong (sort of like how I'm against the Death Penalty, yet would gladly throw the switch if someone killed one of my loved ones......We are all somewhat hypocritical, I believe!
It wouldn't change the way I felt about the death penalty in general...it would just mean that I'd be very tempted to do something I didn't beleive in!
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posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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There is nothing to say she didn't perform cpr. However if she had done something like knocked her child out with chloroform to party as stupid as that is even if she did cpr it would be negligence and manslaughter and she would have faced jailtime therefore she would likely hide the body. Also as I stated earlier Dr Spitz says the duct tape was not placed on the girl until long after she was dead Maybe it was placed on another part (not flesh) and moved. He however said it wasn't there while there was soft tissue (which there was none of).

You don't know that she isn't just incredibly stupid and taking a lot of drugs and thought she could safely put a daughter out and killed her. You don't know that she didn't try everything she could to save her.
None of us know anything. If it was an accident, but the result of incredibly poor choices on her part she would have faced a lot of time and probably panicked and hid the body.

I stand by that it was an accident due to extreme negligence and probably abuse.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by CobraCommander
Useful for an investigation. Not for a trial.


The prosecution can bring just about any evidence he wants. You can bet your last dime any evidence they have that points to her guilt is going to be used and useful in a trial.


That simply is not true at all for one thing. Even if she had been convicted of using chloroform on someone in the past and went to jail for, it would have been ruled inadmissible in any normal case.

And second of all, a google search for chloroform is evidence of nothing. That's like saying that because she owned a car with a trunk she must have been the one who disposed of the body too.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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You know I said the same thing to a friend. I thought maybe to keep her eyes closed or to keep bugs out. Which would show care.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Well first you can't be a sociopath and be sane only appear to be. If she was proven to be a psychopath which would you can't do based on what you know then she would be destined for an asylum.
Second I believe the duct tape was used to cover her daughters eyes/mouth after the fact to close them/keep insects out and the heart sticker wouldn't really fit into the lack of empathy idea.

I agree she definitely fits a lot of the criteria but her crying seems legit at some points. I think she is as close as one can be, but is not a psychopath.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 07:47 PM
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I've been curious if she used drugs. Everyone talked about zanny the nanny possibly being xanex I didn't know if they meant Casey took them or maybe she gave doses to Caylee to put her out. Dosing Caylee would make the zanny the nanny term make sense and give motive for creating the zaneida lie. Maybe someone heard her say it and she thought itd be better to come up with a story than admit to drugging your child.
Likely she ran out/couldn't get xans anymore and tried to chloroform her and that was what killed her..



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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I stand by that it was an accident due to extreme negligence and probably abuse.


Could be. But I still think it was premeditated homicide, or infanticide. It just seems to me she looking more and more like full blown psychopathy.

I don't think they'll convict her of Murder I, though.
I predict a lesser charge or a plea.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking.. this is MSM! A blatant distraction for the masses! There are probably thousands of controversial cases out there... why is this one getting so much attention?



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by CobraCommander

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by CobraCommander
Useful for an investigation. Not for a trial.


The prosecution can bring just about any evidence he wants. You can bet your last dime any evidence they have that points to her guilt is going to be used and useful in a trial.


That simply is not true at all for one thing. Even if she had been convicted of using chloroform on someone in the past and went to jail for, it would have been ruled inadmissible in any normal case.

And second of all, a google search for chloroform is evidence of nothing. That's like saying that because she owned a car with a trunk she must have been the one who disposed of the body too.


The defense lawyer for Milly Dowler's killer in the UK used Milly's father's porn magazines against the parents in a bid to keep his client out of jail and discredit them so yeah, anything goes in a murder trial apparently.

2nd



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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What makes you come to that conclusion? I hope not nancy grace or anyone elses opinion because people really want to make it the worst, but I think I know what happened and I would love to see evidence it was premeditated.

You are basing that completely on search results. Who is to say she searched that with the intention of murder? It actually makes no sense. If you saw that search you would think someone wants to knock someone out not murder them. There are so many more ways to murder but not as many to render unconscious like choloroform.

No evidence of murder let alone premeditated murder.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Theres also Scott Peterson the man who killed his pregnant wife.

My belief is that Casey used chloroform to keep her daughter asleep while she went out and partied it up. I think one night she used too much maybe to keep her asleep longer or just didnt mean to give her such a high dosage. I believe it killed her and then Casey attempted to try to hide the evidence.
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posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Yes the google searches indicate premeditation, but florida courts just passed a law outlawing the death penalty. Meaning even if Casey were to be hit with the biggest punishment, she would not get death due to the new law.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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I'm pretty sure that's not true about the new law outlawing the death penalty in Florida.
Also that search DOES NOT show premeditation for murder I don't know where you guys keep getting that.
It shows nothing but a search for chloroform.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by ladyinwaiting
 


There is nothing to say she didn't perform cpr. However if she had done something like knocked her child out with chloroform to party as stupid as that is even if she did cpr it would be negligence and manslaughter and she would have faced jailtime therefore she would likely hide the body. Also as I stated earlier Dr Spitz says the duct tape was not placed on the girl until long after she was dead Maybe it was placed on another part (not flesh) and moved. He however said it wasn't there while there was soft tissue (which there was none of).

You don't know that she isn't just incredibly stupid and taking a lot of drugs and thought she could safely put a daughter out and killed her. You don't know that she didn't try everything she could to save her.
None of us know anything. If it was an accident, but the result of incredibly poor choices on her part she would have faced a lot of time and probably panicked and hid the body.

I stand by that it was an accident due to extreme negligence and probably abuse.


Dr spitz should retire! Ugh, he broke her skull for goodness sakes! Poor baby already was missing bones


I do not want the death penalty. Because noone really knows what happened. Also, in the eyes of Caylee, casey is forgiven. Children are wholesome like that. Only they can forgive the unforgivable completely.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Amen to that. I cannot believe that any google search could ever produce anything but too much time spent on a computer. Trying to tie it to murder one is especially precarious! In fact, I think anything that is said on the internet to be suspicious and full of beans...most people are just using the web to expound and air their feelings, half the time not knowing what the heck they are saying...They just love to popoff! I also don't like the fact that anyone could know your entire internet history so easily as some are saying that they can do. For that reason alone, I am always careful about anything that I say, not knowing which nutcase out there can get into my history.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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I've spent a lot of time online researching and commenting on a gruesome unsolved local murder, even mentioning that I suspected the police might be covering up for one of their own. I am sure it would take only a nudge to set me up to take the fall for the murder as she walked right past my house the night she was killed, hanging me with my internet activity.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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She says that she did all the searching, but then wasn't able to give details on which browser she was using or even what a browser program was.

My guess is that she perjured herself to try and put some doubt in the minds of the jury, the whole family will end up sharing a cell.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Florida death penalty deemed unconstitutional, may affect Casey Anthony case:

Continue reading on Examiner.com Florida death penalty deemed unconstitutional, may affect Casey Anthony case - National US Headlines | Examiner.com www.examiner.com...

Yes death penalty no longer applies to florida law:



Orlando, Fla. - On Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Jose Martinez ruled that the manner in which Florida courts administer the death sentence does not afford due process to defendants because a judge, not a jury, makes the ultimate decision. Some legal experts speculate that this may have an impact on Casey Anthony, who's accused of capital murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony, 2. Continue reading on Examiner.com Florida death penalty deemed unconstitutional, may affect Casey Anthony case - National US Headlines | Examiner.com www.examiner.com...




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