Being Gay is a Gift from God

While agree with what the " church " is trying to do........

This is ATS......

Ya can't just go around saying " being gay is a gift from God ".......

We need proof!!!!

A card?
Gift wrapp?
A UPS tracking number of the gift?

Without proof..... I'm sorry.... But being gay could be a gift from anyone.....

Originally posted by aero56
reply to post by dalan.

 

God also made them "sin", as part of his game plan.

Sin is a fairytale.

no offense to the op

but this is officialy the most screwed up threat title EVER to exist on ATS

being gay is a gift from god

WTF

seriously WTF is going on in this world

i actually hope the world does end, with everything im seeing lately, itd be our only hope to gain back some normalcy

gay a gift from god

you have got to be f in kidding me

Originally posted by dalan.

Originally posted by aero56
reply to post by dalan.

 

God also made them "sin", as part of his game plan.

Sin is a fairytale.

yea youre right

its no big deal to rape or kill someone right

reply to post by ParAvion


So procreating is perfection? A homosexual person can procreate as well. I mean given their reporductive organs work, they could use a donor or a friend. I mean your comment isn't cemented just by my comment stating heterosexuals can procreate. In a sense I cemented my logic by stating that to be perfect is to end. Hence if you procreate you create new beginnings. A perfect person (If they ever exsited) can produce less than perfect offspring. In other words... define your meaning of perfection.

reply to post by lecaro


I recently found out the most homophobic guy I knew growing up just married a man.

reply to post by topherman420


Thank you for your kind comments, I feel a little better now.

how is taking it in the arse... a gift from god.. blasphemy I say.

Soddom & gomorah is the prime example of how god feels about this.

And being gay is not natural, if it were, babies would come out the asshole..

I don't feel sorry for the persecuted "gay" it's thier choice to live like they do and do the nasty like they do..

Sick puppies...lmao!

A gift from God?

reply to post by TheDevilOfLies


well you can't rape the willing and the moral dilemma of killing someone isn't so bad if they are begging you to do it out of mercy to them (to end their suffering and they are asking for it).

There is no moral dilemma here at all. What two consenting adults do with each other is not any of your business. That means shut your frigging pie hole because the immorality comes in with your hateful words. If you aren't right about your god (and more than a majority of the world would agree with me that your god is not the one true god) then you are just making people miserable for no good reason. Of course someone as pious as you would think they are always right. You are nothing special, you are not a good person, you are a scum sucking turd. Keep your religion at home, and I'll keep my sex life in the bedroom.

Originally posted by TimeSlip2009
how is taking it in the arse... a gift from god.. blasphemy I say.

Soddom & gomorah is the prime example of how god feels about this.

And being gay is not natural, if it were, babies would come out the asshole..

I don't feel sorry for the persecuted "gay" it's thier choice to live like they do and do the nasty like they do..

Sick puppies...lmao!

A gift from God?

Oh I give up these mental midgets should go to the teletubbies website forum to talk with people on their own intellectual level. Talk like that to my face in person and you will no longer have any teeth left.

Originally posted by the4thhorseman
I guess that church must of missed Romans 1...

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

24Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. 26For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Though they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

Is this from the NIV or some other mis-interpreted version of the Bible?

reply to post by OptimusSubprime


maybe he believes in those two rediculous gold plates... lol. These religious nuts are so sad, the puppets that they are...

reply to post by TimeSlip2009


Unless you are in the bedroom of every homosexual (or base your knowledge off of gay pornography?) that is a weak argument. Is being straight and being with a woman more then 'vaginal intercourse'? Or is it simply down to sperm donor and sperm bank?

Other things that have been banned.

1. Round Haircuts.
Leviticus 19:27 reads “You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.”

2. Football.
Leviticus 11:8, which is discussing pigs, reads “You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.”

3. Fortune Telling.
Leviticus 20:6: “As for the person who turns to mediums and to spiritists, to play the harlot after them, I will also set My face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.”

4. Pulling Out.
Genesis 38:9-10: “Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord; so He took his life also.”

5. Tattoos.
Leviticus 19:28 reads, “You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord.”

6. Polyester, or any other fabric blends.
Leviticus 19:19 “You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.”

7. Divorce
Mark 10:11-12, “And He said to them, ‘Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her; and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery.’”

8. Letting people without testicles into church
Deuteronomy 23:1 reads “A man whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off may never join the assembly of the Lord.”

9. Wearing Gold.
Timothy 2.9 “Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments.”

10. Eating Shellfish and other animals
Leviticus 11:10 reads, “But whatever is in the seas and in the rivers that does not have fins and scales among all the teeming life of the water, and among all the living creatures that are in the water, they are detestable things to you.”

11. Woman may not be dominant
Timothy 2:12 "Women shall not lead, or usurp authority over the man, and she shall remain in silence."


"Next we headed for the land of Bashan, where King Og and his army attacked us at Edrei. But the LORD told me, 'Do not be afraid of him, for I have given you victory over Og and his army, giving you his entire land. Treat him just as you treated King Sihon of the Amorites, who ruled in Heshbon.' So the LORD our God handed King Og and all his people over to us, and we killed them all. We conquered all sixty of his towns, the entire Argob region in his kingdom of Bashan. These were all fortified cities with high walls and barred gates. We also took many unwalled villages at the same time. We completely destroyed the kingdom of Bashan, just as we had destroyed King Sihon of Heshbon. We destroyed all the people in every town we conquered – men, women, and children alike. But we kept all the livestock for ourselves and took plunder from all the towns." (Deuteronomy 3:1-7 NLT)

What a loving, great god.

Originally posted by sixneuproele
reply to post by ParAvion

 

So procreating is perfection? A homosexual person can procreate as well. I mean given their reporductive organs work, they could use a donor or a friend. I mean your comment isn't cemented just by my comment stating heterosexuals can procreate. In a sense I cemented my logic by stating that to be perfect is to end. Hence if you procreate you create new beginnings. A perfect person (If they ever exsited) can produce less than perfect offspring. In other words... define your meaning of perfection.

Let's look at "to be perfect is to end", a statement that is disingenuous due to the fact that perfection is only the beginning of imperfection (to promote your flawed logic). For example I might be perfect, that does not mean it is the end of my species, it just means that those who come after will be imperfect.

Now lets look at heterosexuality and homosexuality. What do you think came first, heterosexuality or homosexuality. Logically there must have been a heterosexual (the perfect state of human sexuality) act to make the homosexual (flawed state of human sexuality) individual. Now this homosexual has an imperfect sexuality, the only possibility as the issue of perfect sexuality (again following the lines of your flawed logic).

**yawn**

Originally posted by eNumbra


Why would anyone choose to be gay.
Seems to me, if the bible was right and considering all the persecution that exists there is no upside to being gay: therefore, why would anyone choose to be gay?

Well think it through. Someone that has extreme shyness problems around women or are unattractive, overwieght and any number of other things that life throws at a person and they never end up being able to have sex with the opposite sex.

So what choice (in his/her mind) does this poor soul have? To ignore the sex drive? To not have human loving contact...ever?

So they make the choice that flesh is flesh, human touch is human touch no matter the source is better than a life of nothing.

Sometimes they are born this way. Sometimes a choice is made.

Originally posted by Hillbilly123069
People said it was ok. God said it isn't. Choice, as any other temptation, you have a choice to rebuke or give in. Yes, it is a choice. It is a violent battle for your soul everyday. The devil will throw everything he has to distract you. The biggest trick he's pulled off to date is get people to forget.

God didn't say squat. Religious people said God said this. You bible followers need to learn that the bible is a work of fiction. God didn't write it.

People back in the day believe in the bible because they were uneducated and didn't see the holes and contradictions. Well guess what, now people do so organized religion, especially when it's filled with corrupt and pedophile people is falling.

Guess why the church have a big following in Africa? People are uneducated. Guess why the muslim fate as a huge following in the middle-east? People are uneducated.

Simple as that.

Being Gay is not a gift from God! Sorry but it's right in the bible that it is a sin. Love how our country is trying to make it an okay thing, no wonder all the other country's hate us. This thread is the most ridiculous thing and it p***** me off. This is why my kids will NOT be going to public schools so that the government can brain wash my kid that it's okay to be gay. Hope I'm not offending anyone but it's the truth.

Being Gay is a choice. Remember that just because it's a choice, doesn't make it okay. People make bad choices.

Also, the reason why most people turn out to be gay is because they were beaten most of there life, or they were raped. Nobody better be saying that people are born gay because that's not true. If god didn't want you to be that way, why would he have be born that way. Common sense.

Did God make an Adam and a Steve? No he did not. That says it all right there!

Originally posted by Vitchilo

Originally posted by Hillbilly123069
People said it was ok. God said it isn't. Choice, as any other temptation, you have a choice to rebuke or give in. Yes, it is a choice. It is a violent battle for your soul everyday. The devil will throw everything he has to distract you. The biggest trick he's pulled off to date is get people to forget.

God didn't say squat. Religious people said God said this. You bible followers need to learn that the bible is a work of fiction. God didn't write it.

People back in the day believe in the bible because they were uneducated and didn't see the holes and contradictions. Well guess what, now people do so organized religion, especially when it's filled with corrupt and pedophile people is falling.

Guess why the church have a big following in Africa? People are uneducated. Guess why the muslim fate as a huge following in the middle-east? People are uneducated.

Simple as that.

You deserve to be kicked off of this Earth. You are going to HELL. You are one of the many reasons why this country is falling apart. YOU are un-educated because you were brought up by the school system (having the government brainwash you into what they want you to think.) You think your free? HUH. You have a lot to learn, and I don't care what you say. You don't know anything obviously.

Originally posted by AwareOfSurroundings
(having the government brainwash you into what they want you to think.)

HAHAHAH! I went to Catholic school, as did many of my friends I grew up with. Most of us are still spiritual, but found the Catholic religion and bible ridiculous. We believe that if we are good people, no God will strike us down. Gay, straight, bisexual, black, white....it doesn't matter. Any religion that teaches hate isn't a religion that me, or any of the people I associate with will tolerate.

So based on this logic, you'd say Steven Hawking doesn't know anything either?