Orgasms Without Love Are feeding Evil!

reply to post by coder22


Instead of thinking about releasing it through orgasm, think about that energy going to your brain. Try to send it to your brain using your thoughts and contracting your muscles. Move that sexual energy to your brain, it will flow up your spine, past your heart, and throat, and then to your third eye. If you can do this, you will feel more motivated, more energy, more creative, and want to be more productive. All you have to do is learn to move that energy up, instead out of down and out, wasting it through ejaculation.

Originally posted by starwisdom
reply to post by Scorpitarius

 

This is an unfortunate example of how western brains warp eastern philosophies when they get a hold of it.

The motive is the need to become a guru and/or to be exalted using christianity, taoism, etc.

Pick up the original authors of these practices - that would be the ancient chinese texts. The OP is only trying to cram those philosophies into some bizarre religious, western split between good and evil and that's not going to work. This isn't about avoiding "evil," it's about celebrating equally the divinity in both partners.

Only a balanced mind can understand that. An immature mind usually is in a more chaos and unbalanced state, it'll strife for false superiority rather than equality and will try to use a lot of means to achieve it.

reply to post by mr-lizard


Mr lizard, you are missing the point. It doesnt matter if you are single, married, fat, pretty, ugly, or skinny. Every single time you have an orgasm, you are wasting sexual energy, all for 10 seconds of pleasure. If you channel that energy throughout your body, you will feel 10 times better than any orgasm.

All this energy everyone is working with is created as they work with it.

People need to be grounded.

reply to post by xxshadowfaxx


Hey thanks, that's great advice, that's really helped me. I've managed to battle and conquer this urge/craving. Thanks! I'll keep you all posted!

reply to post by coder22


Keep fighting the urge of release. And I promise you that within 4 days, you will feel really good. Don't focus on getting a release, but focus on channeling that energy into other uses, and you will find yourself with unlimited potential.

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
Hey ChaosMagician,

The device is really comfortable to wear, it does not have a tight grip. It is a snug feeling, like the penis is being caressed. It can be worn 24/7. Hygiene is not a problem once you know how to clean it properly, as there are vents along the shaft for air and water. The end is open for peeing. You really should look into these devices and see how they work. If I am not wearing the device, and I still don't have an orgasm, it doesn't feel the same. After a few days in the device, I have more energy for everything. It's really weird. If I take the device off, that energy seems to slow down, as I'm assuming, because the semen stops flowing upwards toward the brain, and starts back down for orgasm. I am only guessing here, as it's only been 5 weeks of experimentation for me so far. But I can tell you, the last 5 weeks, have been the most productive of my entire life. It's like I turned into a completely different person. So I may not understand what transmutation is, but I do believe I am experiencing it with this device. It really makes me wonder how far it can take me. If I feel like this after a mere 5 weeks, what happens in 5 months? 5 years? Can I unlock parts of the brain that not many people ever use? I don't understand it, but I am certainly going to try and find out, because the last 5 weeks have been an incredible experience.

edit on 24-4-2011 by xxshadowfaxx because: (no reason given)

Well, you did say that you were a virgin of 27 years, which seems pretty patient concerning sexual urges... so perhaps you are simply not an overly aggressive sex maniac like many people are. This may be a good thing for for you. I'd say just be careful and listen to your body if a great deal of pressure builds. Perhaps you actually are experiencing some type of gradual transmutation and with learning that process, I think slow is the way to go. I just know some devices, can have a potentially negative effect when overused... like that ball clamp I mentioned. They say even tight pants can decreases sperm count but I think it's the pressure on the balls rather than the penis. Have fun.


I also want to take the time to commend the OP for the patience that they have demonstrated in this thread. Don't get me wrong, I have respect for those who when faced with excessive negativity resorts to simply pulling out a bigger gun than the opponent, but you fight the battles that are worth winning, right?

I think some people are simply taking much of this out of context and don't understand that one is capable of generating negative energy within, which is also connected to the world around you as big cycle and that even chemical reactions of the hormones and neurotransmitters are still energy... energy that can be transferred and displaced or thoughtfully allocated. Maybe some of them will simply just try it and discover new things and notice things about their habits that they hadn't noticed before. One also doesn't have to be absolutely 100% correct and scientific in their statements to make a point or just open dialogue... to share ideas and to learn from others.
I know for a fact that if I masturbate and if I a not centered on love and endearment... for another, for nature, for the pleasures of living, life itself or anything positive and constructive...such as if I am doing it simply out of boredom or trying to force myself to sleep by wearing myself out, I might tend to resort to highly perverted thoughts to fill the void that love can fill your heart with and excite the senses. To make a habit out of such a thing is programming ones self. As actual demon doesn't have to walk into a room and say "oh, look... a person thoughtlessly masturbating...LUNCHTIME!".... you can create demonic forces within. It may be very gradual but we shape our own lives in many ways. I'm not saying it is all bad and evil to have some extremely dirty thoughts because there is a very dirty side of nature (for lack of a better word so please no one come in here saying "it's not dirty if it's nature" because I get it!..it's just a slightly polarized description to make a point, much like the intensity of the word evil in the thread title is just to show some polarization. I think it simply describes a direction things can take rather than a comparison to hitler or something)

However, no matter how dirty nature can be, we are meant to progress above the carnal instinct even though we must accept some level of that in a carnal world. it is part of our evolution to he celestial. I sincerely believe the soul wants to progress to the state where there is a separate but organized balance of polarization as opposed to chaos constantly cycling in a perpetually torn apart state or complete infite singularity... balance between the yin and yang express in a life of peace. True harmony between opposite polarizations rather than violent caustic polarizations often found in less sentient nature and in the extremes of the highly destructive and creative forces in the raw universe. God created this bubble of attempted safety that we must attune to to achieve that delicate balance and rise above. Is it possible to discipline the carnal perversion while still accepting it as a part of the sexual process? With love, I think it's worth the effort to find out.. to embody that balance right here in our beings. If you only accept that this is what sex is, the carnal deviation of purity and nothing else, no discipline (which is why many fantasies incorporate a defiling of innocence but commonly and dangerously without love)... you might be endangering yourself into contemplating higher extremes in the carnal mind because sex is an addiction. In the brain it produces the same chemicals that addictive substances do. It's not about *not* giving in to what the brain and body wants but tempering it into a controlled and peaceful, yet unleashed state... for your own well being and for those around you.

When I direct my energy as love, there are the pure feelings of love but there are also some unrestrained, highly erotic, somewhat dehumanizing sensations and thoughts that pass... which is ok when your focus is on someone who is understanding of this and accepting of that carnal instinct and it's shared and consensual and not out of place, not sought for the perversion of it but for the love. it is passing expressions that if solely pursued by what they can accomplish (facilitating the high of the addiction) then that becomes more of what you are teaching yourself than the disciplined and understanding state of upholding love. You may not wake up to be a complete pervert the next day when dabbling with loveless thoughts, but you may lose a part of yourself that over time cannot be regained. The problem is not that sex is a chemical process or solely a physical expression, it is that it is seldom NOT accompanied by thoughts, fantasies, wishes. It is seldom completely physical.. and *that* as a matter of FACT are a problem in this world! Sex crime is no uncommon thing. It is far from imaginary. It is CLEARLY a real problem and the fact that more men are guilty of it than woman is directly tied to the male process of sex. it's not a coincidence. It's not that men's minds have a higher tendency to be born bad, but their sexual biological expressions are more outward and more aggressively defined in their bodies and whether or not they know it, they probably fantasize a lot and therefore they are at a risk of spiraling down a degenerative path if they allow their thoughts to spiral into a predominately loveless state. Everyone is, but I am just pointing out statistics about men. Not picking on them. They are simply commonly known as the aggressive species and that included aggression in thoughts and a tendency to vehemently hold on the that aggression as a natural state of their uncomplicated masculinity, which is actually highly complex whether they realize this or not. We are all very highly complex in nature and to understand and discipline those complexities is putting value into ourselves.

To resist loveless thoughts in the mind doesn't detract from the sexual process and it doesn't hinder it. It merely transforms it into something more disciplined and more loving. Some just want to stick with what they know and not complicate it with notions they are not even aware they are thinking about or not thinking about.


anyway... star and flag for the OP for the expression of ideas and the patience they have displayed.

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
reply to post by coder22

 

Instead of thinking about releasing it through orgasm, think about that energy going to your brain. Try to send it to your brain using your thoughts and contracting your muscles. Move that sexual energy to your brain, it will flow up your spine, past your heart, and throat, and then to your third eye. If you can do this, you will feel more motivated, more energy, more creative, and want to be more productive. All you have to do is learn to move that energy up, instead out of down and out, wasting it through ejaculation.

That is interesting for the benefits that could be produced...mental and physical.

I find that it is also very physically uplifting to move the energy to your heart especially when thinking of love for another.

Thanks magician and shadow - I will try this next time!

*thumbs up*

you can definitely you know... masterbate with love in your heart... this is so weird to talk about on ATS of ALL places but if its to someone you genuinely really are in love with, like a high school sweet heart kinda thing, thats just the way to do it.. i can feel the difference in my mind and mindset before and after if i do it to porn.. its so impersonal and fake. real sex isnt like that and they film it to be as lustful as possible.

i feel pity for the kids growing up using ONLY porn and no imagination.. i remember if i did it to videos too often it would be hard to do it on my own because i wasnt exercising my imagination. that stuff's addicting and toxic to your mind and soul. just stay away from the porn and do it to someone you really dig, but do it with the utmost respect, sincerity and love. thats the best way i can put it. good luck kids go get 'em hahahah

I hereby admit to feeding evil a lot

Sexuality is part of being human, and although I agree making love to someone you really care about can be better, I don't believe suppressing your nature is a good thing

Originally posted by MrXYZ
I hereby admit to feeding evil a lot

Sexuality is part of being human, and although I agree making love to someone you really care about can be better, I don't believe suppressing your nature is a good thing

To not have an orgasm is not suppressing nature. Think about it this way. Animals are only in heat during a certain time of the year. They don't need sex every day of the year. During the times in which animals aren't in heat, they are using their sexual energy for other things, like survival, building nests, keeping their senses tuned to the earth so they are always in resonance with it. Humans are so far unattached from the earth now, that we are all useless. We couldn't survive without our cell phone or computer. We need money, which is only paper, just to buy a meal. If one day that system fails, and people see money for what it really is, then we are all screwed, because we don't have any connection with the earth. Our senses are atrophied. We have many dormant senses that we are not even aware of. We live with the current 5, because they are the only ones needed in this world. Sight, smell, hearing, touch and taste. Animals are much more aware than this. They know when the weather is going to change, they know where to migrate to safe places, they know when a natural disaster is going to strike, and so on. They communicate with each other through means unknown to humans. If humans used their sexual energy in their minds, humans would then wake up, and be like the animals, with tuned senses, and minds rampant with creativity. Just look at all the greatest minds in our history. Just about all of them, used their sexual energy. Leo da vinci, nikola tesla, Ghandi, among many more. It's a secret that has been kept from humanity. All these conspiracies about controlling the population.... well, sex is how they do it. Look around, everything you see, is sex sex sex. Turn on the radio....sex. Turn on the tv....sex.....go to the movie.....sex..... read a magazine....sex..... which has turned schools, and other public places into sex factories. Girls are all influenced now to dress sexy, stay skinny and so on. Sex is so rampant across the globe, that it's impossible to create order out of this chaos. All that wasted sexual energy makes for a lazy, lackadaisical population. That is how we are controlled. If we all channelled our sexual energy to our brains, none of us would want to work at mcdonalds, or deliver papers, or pizza delivery man. Because we would all, have so much more potential. We could be a race, capable of anything we wanted. We would be gods. And when you look at the earths history.... it seems, we once were.

33rd degree........33 vertibrae in the spine in which sexual energy must pass before it gets to the brain. If that isn't an eye opener, then stop ejaculation for a week and read this again.

Sorry OP, but you ALMOST hit the nail.
The fact is that theres no "outside entity".

It's Inside of us, and its called EGO.
That's the so called "demon". It uses our energy when we behave bad, in any form of the 7 deadly sins.

But the fact is, no mater if you love or not, if you loose energy in a orgasm, you are already doing more harm than good to yourself.

There's a fundamental key known to the white magic practitioners called Alchemy: the married couple (the divine Elohim) will use the sexual energy to REALLY grow spiritually, while killing the Ego in the process.

Anyway, its such a huge topic. If you're interested in knowing more, send me a pvt msg.

reply to post by xxshadowfaxx


Try celibacy for a few months and see how well you fare

It IS against human nature to only have sex when trying to conceive...

Originally posted by GezinhoKiko
WOW!
i meen i feel great after a five knuckle shuffle
i feel grumpy at times when ive not had sex or choked the chicken!

just my opinion and it works for me
each to their own

Right. Plus, if I don't release the sexual tension I am unable to fully concentrate on anything until I do. My gawd, we'll never get to the stars if we, as civilized and well-informed men, are still placing this much importance and unrealistic baggage on our own genitals.

It's okay to spit, to crap, to blow our noses, to dig wax out of our ears, but don't you dare whip that wee-wee!

reply to post by MrXYZ


You are not understanding the difference between celibacy and transmutation of sexual energy.

For all of you people that think you get sexually frustrated, you are all wrong. You have to understand, that you have to stop focusing on having the release through ejaculation, and realize that you can actually have an internal orgasm, which sends the sexual energy upwards. It is called transmutation, google it.

To say "internal orgasm" isn't the best way to put it.

And this is why (a link to a post in a already-mentioned ATS thread).

Meditation and the Mercury & Hexiohehary

Transmutation does work though.

See the following thread (in another forum).

Practical Advice From Samael Aun Weor and Swami Sivananda

Not to ignore anyone who has addressed my posts here.... We'll see if I can reply more later.

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
For all of you people that think you get sexually frustrated, you are all wrong. You have to understand, that you have to stop focusing on having the release through ejaculation, and realize that you can actually have an internal orgasm, which sends the sexual energy upwards. It is called transmutation, google it.

It's very simple to raise the energy out of the base chakra up to the crown whenever you feel the Stirring that leads to a 'need to release'.

All I have ever done once experiencing Kundalini raising, is to 'imagine' raising the energy upwards.. this causes the base chakra to settle down.. the 'need' dissipates.. and more clarity of mind/awareness is gained.

It is just that simple.... Energy goes where you place your Attention.

Originally posted by Scorpitarius
When you think about the millions of Loveless orgasms that happen every day, each one helping to increase the strength of evil negativity, each one taking more and more away from the love in each individuals life, and in turn from the world, it’s apparent that evil has the upper hand.

You see sexual energy as something that has to be released in a specific way and reason. An orgasm is the resultant of pleasure or stimulation of the genitalia.

Sex is neither good or evil. It depends on the context in which it is used. Maybe if you were not trapped in the dualism of ying vs yang, good vs evil you would see everything exists for a reason.