Putting It All Together: A theory of historical proportions involving WA,ID,MT,WY,NV,OR and CA.

reply to post by Disconnected Sociopath


Okay, read your OP. No, I had not seen it before, definately would have commented on it if I had. I think this poster is correct and my theory just takes it a bit further. Like I have said, I am POSITIVE that I am not the first and certainly not the only one to see this, because once you refocus, it is just so OBVIOUS!!!

If you dig through the vergbage on the USGS site itself is is all there. Look at the history of the cascadian subduction zone and then look at the history of the san andreas fault. Look at the mountain and volcanic ranges. Look at the faults, look at the quakes. Look at the deep tremors. It is ALL THERE.

I think it is more than the San Andreas being locked and going. I think the San Andreas is a SYMPTOM to something even bigger...much bigger. It WILL go...but when it does, it most likely will be because of something even bigger to its east going first.

Originally posted by westcoast
reply to post by Disconnected Sociopath

 

Okay, read your OP. No, I had not seen it before, definately would have commented on it if I had. I think this poster is correct and my theory just takes it a bit further. Like I have said, I am POSITIVE that I am not the first and certainly not the only one to see this, because once you refocus, it is just so OBVIOUS!!!

If you dig through the vergbage on the USGS site itself is is all there. Look at the history of the cascadian subduction zone and then look at the history of the san andreas fault. Look at the mountain and volcanic ranges. Look at the faults, look at the quakes. Look at the deep tremors. It is ALL THERE.

I think it is more than the San Andreas being locked and going. I think the San Andreas is a SYMPTOM to something even bigger...much bigger. It WILL go...but when it does, it most likely will be because of something even bigger to its east going first.

Like I've been preaching on this forum for weeks now, if your theory is correct (as are many prophets like Edgar Caycee who forsaw the future of the west coast many years ago) than this is what we can expect the 'aftermath' of this 'event' to look like:

You hearing any rumbling up your way WC?

www.pnsn.org...

reply to post by berkeleygal


Ha....you beat me to it! I was outside for several hours today, but was bundled up against the wind/rain and next to the freeway (at my sons track meet) so even if there was any rumbling, I wouldn't have heard it.

Maybe tomorrow will be better and I can get a better listen. I haven't heard it now for quite some time...about the last time we had significant tremors up here!

Highway 14 in Southern California. It is no secret and never really has been.

reply to post by Red Cloak


Could you elaborate a little more about Highway 14 please? I have no idea what you are talking about.

reply to post by westcoast


Wow...I have to say, this is all really facinating (sp). I too live in Washington state, in the southwest portion. I have gown up with the stories of Mt. St. Helens eruption in the 80's, though I was only 3 at the time, so I don't remember any of it. However, in the last three months, I have had this seriously urgent feeling that something big is going to happen along the cascades soon. I have had an even more urgent desire to pack up my kids and head back to Minnesota where I was born. I have been researching the cascades, Yellowstone and the Pacific ring of Fire lately, but I'm not very good at putting things together. All I know is I too have seen the yellowstone images, (I thought they recently updated the info saying that there is magma only 4 miles under the surface of the caldera, could have read it wrong though). I also have this feeling that it WILL lead to a chain reaction beginning in Yellowstone, and moving west to the cascades, and then following the "Ring" around the pacific causing mass eruptions all around. I also "theorize" that when this is done, a new continent will form out in the pacific, while existing continents "disappear". Perhaps this is all just my imagination at work, and perhaps I'm onto something. I don't have the intellect or the "intelligence" to research all the necessary info, for lack of understanding alot of it. However, what you have pointed out is epic, and I for one am not dismissing the possibilities.

For those of you who are good at research, please look into the Pacific Ring of Fire and let me know if you see this theory as being plausible. I would appreciate the info. I am planning a trip with my kids to go to the mid-west this summer to see family that I haven't seen in years, yet another urgent feeling that I have had. I have been considering moving back there because of all of the 2012/mass earthquake/mass eruption/mass destruction theories that have been "predicted" to hit the west coast. I want to protect my children, and I am truly beginning to think that there may be something here.

The government has been trying for years to create a "super race" of genetically altered, "perfect" humans. If we are on the cusp of an E.L.E...the government will not warn us. They will only save those who are super intelligent and will contribute to the "super" gene pool such as: Dr.'s, Scientist, geneoligist, leaders and the rich! Everyone else will be left behind...as an easy solution to the current over population!

Just my opinion, not meant as fact or truth. I'm probably way off base and sound insane, but that's my piece on the subject. Let me know what you think.

Peace

reply to post by anjl32


Hi there! Thanks for contributing! I think that a lot of people have been feeling the same urgency as you. It is really hard to say if this is real or just a result of saturation in the media. There is no denying that there's some shifting going right now (hence the japan quake), but in all honesty there is ALWAYS shifting going on, we just don't see or hear about it as much when it isn't a major event.

What I am trying to say is that to be aware is just smart....but don't let that awareness bring or add stress to your life. No matter where you move, you can find something to worry about. Yes, some places are safer than others and maybe your desire to be closer to your family has more to do with other things than any danger pending from the ring of fire? Just do what you think is best for your family, but try not to base it on anything unknown if ultimately they are better of here. Make sense?

As to the ring of fire, there are all sorts of ideas on it. I don't foresee any huge landmass rising up, as the ring of fire circles an actual plate, not really individual masses. At least, nothing that would happen quickly, vs, hundreds of thousands of years which is the typical time-frame for building.

I am leaning towards a feeling that if we see anything on the subduction zone in our lifetime, it is going to be to the south of us in California/Nevada/Southern Oregon. Yes, anything major would affect us, but I am thinking the actual destructive force is going to be to the South. (remember, I am no expert this is pure speculation!)

reply to post by westcoast


I just wanted to thank you for responding so quickly. AND...to say it is nice to know that I am not a paranoid freak standing alone out here with my thoughts and theories like some crazy person...(though I am a paranoid freak..lol). No, moving to the mid-west US would be due to the desire to be surrounded by my family, not because I think the world is going to end...though that may have persuaded me just a bit more in recent months since the China EQ and Tsunami. My mother was the only person I had here, and since she passed a few years back, I have never felt more alone. My "boyfriends" family is unsupportive of me and my children, and he is equally unsupportive, refusing to stick up for me and my children when I feel we have been wronged...long story short, I was feeling alone and since the 9.9 in China, I have really begun to analyze my current situation, taking what I don't like and trying to find ways to change it. Perhaps a move is just what I need, a fresh start....except, I love this state and would miss it terribly...especially in the summertime! Forever green in the evergreen state!!!!! =)

reply to post by Disconnected Sociopath


Can you provide a link to that map ?

I'd like to see a full size version.

Originally posted by anjl32
reply to post by westcoast

 

I just wanted to thank you for responding so quickly. AND...to say it is nice to know that I am not a paranoid freak standing alone out here with my thoughts and theories like some crazy person...(though I am a paranoid freak..lol). No, moving to the mid-west US would be due to the desire to be surrounded by my family, not because I think the world is going to end...though that may have persuaded me just a bit more in recent months since the China EQ and Tsunami. My mother was the only person I had here, and since she passed a few years back, I have never felt more alone. My "boyfriends" family is unsupportive of me and my children, and he is equally unsupportive, refusing to stick up for me and my children when I feel we have been wronged...long story short, I was feeling alone and since the 9.9 in China, I have really begun to analyze my current situation, taking what I don't like and trying to find ways to change it. Perhaps a move is just what I need, a fresh start....except, I love this state and would miss it terribly...especially in the summertime! Forever green in the evergreen state!!!!! =)

I wanted to say hi to you, anjl32 and take a moment (without derailing the thread, sorry WC) to tell you that I lost my mom in 1996. It was her and I my entire life and she was my best friend, my partner, my reason for living. I'm 41 now and even though she's been gone a long time, I still miss her every single day. Some days are easier than others, some days are not. However she is with me always and I feel her with me.

Your mom is with you too. She always will be. With that... I also want to tell you to trust your instincts. Never doubt them. We as humans have a tendancy to constantly question ourselves and our thoughts. Hindsight is always 20/20 and when we look back at things, we often times realize that our first thoughts/instincts were right.

If you have urges/feelings/thoughts on moving back to Minnesota. Please get quiet with yourself and listen to what your gut is telling you. Don't try and justify all the ifs/ands/buts ... do what feels right to you. Believe in yourself. Trust in yourself.

Lastly... never fear asking questions here. MOST of us are good people... some even wonderful. Like WestCoast, the OP. Fortunately for me, I found her and a handful of others here on ATS, very early on, and have followed them closely. This crew of folks are always happy to answer questions, share their knowledge, whether it be fact or opinion. And best of all... the sharing of ideas and theories.

I wish you the best of luck with whatever decisions you make for yourself and your family. Just remember, YOU know what is right for YOU.

reply to post by westcoast


Westcoast

I know NOTHING about earthquakes, and less about volcanoes - however I've been paying attention to you and TA and I'm very impressed. This is hands down one of the best threads I've read on ATS just because of the research and thought. I haven't read past the first page however I just wanna clarify, isn't a subduction zone where one plate slides under another? If so, then wouldn't that add pressure to the magma that MAY be connected thus pushing it into a high pressure zone on the east side of that magma chamber?

S&F. Keep up the good work. We need thinkers like you.

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


Thank you SO much for the compliments! Very nice to hear....

As to your question, yes you are exactly right. One plate pushing under another...and yes, this is what created the Cascade Volcanic range and what leads me to think that IF these systems are connected, a mega thrust quake may have an impact much further than the coast.

@Utahrosebud.....derail? Never! Excellent advice, my friend. You are very wise.

reply to post by westcoast


Well then, if my zero knowledge on the topic azz could come up with it, I'm definitely cuttin for you on this one. It just makes sense. I mean even if the magma chamber isn't connected, I'm guessing that earthquake with it's predicted magnitude could cause volcanic activity in WA at least.

Look no further than the Newberry Volcano.

maps.google.com...,-121.228638&spn=0.134724,0.221786&z=12


The Newberry Volcano along with the Newberry Caldera is a shield volcano located 20 miles southeast of Bend Oregon, USA. This is no ordinary shield volcano because it has released basaltic, andesitic and rhyolitic lava flows. Just look at Google Maps to see the extent of the lava flows. Better yet, look at it in Google Earth to see a more detailed view. Here are some interesting facts about this shield volcano.

the Newberry volcanism has been attributed to a so-called hotspot (a plume of hot material arising from the earth's mantle)

en.wikipedia.org...

A great deal of volcanic activity has occurred on Newberry's shield, which itself has one of the largest collections of cinder cones, domes, lava flows, and fissures in the world

en.wikipedia.org...

both lakes [in the Newberry Caldera] have hot springs, and drilling in 1981 found that temperatures in the caldera reach 280 °C (540 °F) at 3,057 feet (932 m) below the caldera floor. This is the highest temperature ever recorded at a dormant Cascade volcano, hotter than even The Geysers of California.

en.wikipedia.org...

It produced six eruptive events in its known history:
12,000 years ago
11,200 years ago
7,300 years ago
7,000 years ago
3,500 years ago
480 A.D.

Some major movements under the earth pushed out all those lava flows over different periods of time. I would imagine when the Juan de Fuca plate produces a major thrust movement we will see another great outpouring of lava in eastern Oregon.

reply to post by lostinspace


VERY interesting information. Thank you! Just goes to show that there are numerous areas of concern all along the coast.

Originally posted by berkeleygal
reply to post by Red Cloak

 

Could you elaborate a little more about Highway 14 please? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Also look up Cajon Pass.

reply to post by Red Cloak


We have a lot of evidence of this folding and faulting within the Coastal range in our area too at the head of the state. I always find it fascinating that you can take solid rock and deform it like it was saltwater taffy.

I notice the deep tremor activity has moved way back north into Washington after a sojourn to our area in North California.

BTW...I don't think this activity is something that can be heard. The frequency is much, much too low for human ears, IMHO. Sort of like the ground moving up and down a fraction of an inch every hour or so.

Also, I've photographed another erroneously called 'rainbow cloud' like the Schezuan event (properly called a 'circumhorizon arc') and other unusual halos and prove once again they have NO link ot earthquake activity. My experience with atmospheric optics has proved to me without a doubt that there is no correlation between the two. JFYI

circumhorizon arcs

Parhelia-Sun Dogs

reply to post by czygyny


Nice pictures! I have to agree with you on the 'sun dogs' and 'sun halos'. I even have a thread where I documented a couple of spectacular sun halos last year and then numerous sun dogs this past year on my washington state thread. While they are beautiful and an interesting phenom, I have not been able to personally correlate them to any earthquake activity. Having said that, just because I have not been able to prove it, does not mean I have disproven it. I continue to be aware of them and photograph them realizing that while I am most likely just witnessing a display of refraction, there is still the possibility of something more.

As to the deep tremors. I am not convinced that I am hearing them, but still very much suspicous that I am. I understand what you are saying and if you have followed my deep tremor or rumbling thread you'll understand that I have always said it is felt more than heard. That it is at such a low frequency it is almost impossible to record without specialized equipment and that I don't think everyone is capable of 'hearing' it...only those that are sensitive to it.

It is more of a vibration or resonation that I think it is being 'bounced' back off the atmosphere....


@redcloak; thanks for that video. Very impressive. I will look up your suggested reading.

reply to post by UtahRosebud


Thank you so much to UtahRosebud and westcoast for your kind words. I know this isn't the place, but you are absolutely right rosebud...I still miss my mom terribly as well. We were very close and she was only 50 when she passed away. Far too young to be gone already. I often feel so alone, she was the only constant in my life. We moved around alot so it was hard to make friends growing up.

I am constantly and continuously "wowed" by all the information you all get here. I am totally "in love" with volcanoes! I know it sounds crazy, and I totally don't wish for any to blow up any time soon, but I also know that eventually they do go boom. I am so jealous of those who actually got to see St. Helens (from a safe distance) and so wish that I could have been just a little older so I might be able to recall some of the event. However, if things go the way your all saying in this thread, I will get the chance to witness an eruption sooner or later within my lifetime. I just hope I am at a safe distance from it when it happens..lol. I should have been a geologist!!! I would have totally enjoyed trolloping all over the world, learning new things, getting samples of soil and reading seismic activity surrounding these magnificent and powerful creations of land. Will be checking in often to get updates on the cascade range and Yellowstone! Thanks for keeping us all informed and in the loop. Great Thread!!!
Blessed be brothers and sisters!