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Originally posted by seenitall
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Link and others including military and civilian pilots as well as astronauts who know that we have been visited many times by alien species, and these people have talked about what they have seen.
Qualifications and career in Nuclear PhysicsFriedman graduated from Linden High School[disambiguation needed] and the University of Chicago, earning a Bachelor of Science (1955) and Master of Science (1956) degree in nuclear physics.
Friedman was employed for 14 years as a nuclear physicist for such companies as General Electric, General Motors, Westinghouse, TRW Systems, Aerojet General Nucleonics, and McDonnell Douglas where he worked on advanced, classified programs on nuclear aircraft, fission and fusion rockets, and compact nuclear power plants for space applications. Since the 1980s, he has done related consultant work in the Radon-detection industry. Friedman's professional affiliations have included the American Nuclear Society, the American Physical Society, the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics and AFTRA. 
Originally posted by andre18
Aliens don't know we're here, we've been sending signals out into space sine the 1950's so those signals are about 60 years out into space, so the aliens that are coming here now can't be more 30 light years away to have enough time to pick up our signals and then send their signals back to us. So even if they can go the speed of light, there are only 2000 stars that have been exposed to our fm, tv and radar. But the thing is, a couple of thousand stars is a very small number and strikes me as too few a number for any civilisation to currently know that we exist. This might help you sleep better at night knowing no one knows we're here. To the people who claim that we're being visited, why are they here now? The usual answer to that is, well they're concerned with what we're doing to the environment or they're concerned about nuclear war, that they have some moral interest in us but that's alien sociology so we don't really know that.
But that's all supersession, i mean no one really knows if aliens would have any interest in us but the point is that, that argument doesn't matter because they don't know about us. So if they've come now, that's enormously coincidental. My question to those are convinced that we're being visited, why isn't this evidence good enough to be put into the local science museum? The answers are always that there is good evidence but it's being covered up, well that's an argument from ignorance. That's saying i've got a cure for cancer but they've taken it away from me and locked it up so i can't tell you…..that shouldn't convince you.
Most of you think that the best way to find aliens is that they're here abducting people out of their homes, so why is SETI trying to pick up radio signals from space when there are aliens here abducting us? Because in the real world scientists aren't finding any signals from aliens, theres no compelling evidence. And even if they did, there's actual protocols at SETI for what to do if a signal is picked up and most of you assume that if a signal was picked up, the government would cover it up on the assumption that people would start rioting in the street, but thats not true at all because in 1997 at 3:30 in the morning SETI found what they thought was an alien signal, but as it turned out it was a false alarm. It took about 16 hours to figure out it was the solar research satellite, and the signal was just bouncing around the antenna they were using in just the right way to mimic a real alien signal.
But what's interesting about this, is the public assumes the government would come in and shut them down because the public couldn't handle the news but instead nobody seemed to be interested, no secrecy. All that happened was a science writer from the New York times called a few hours later. So the New York Times already knew about it, you can be sure the media will find out about this before anybody else - there's no policy of secrecy. So you see in the event of the real thing you will read about it right away, because there's no government cover up.
And even when we do make contact they won't be anything like the greys reptilians and pleiadians, because the idea that aliens are still like us, soft and squishy and are just in a short interval between inventing radio and building machines that can replace their frail bodies as we have began doing makes no sense. It's not reasonable that the aliens are going to be soft little squishy grey guys, they're going to be some sort of machine intelligence.
Think of it chronology - you invent radio and within 100 years after inventing radio people are already talking about artificial intelligence. So it's seems reasonable it's going to happen within this century, because by 2020 your laptop will have the same compute power as the human brain. The point is that's the time scale - you invent radio and within a century or two you invent your successor and it's not soft squishy intelligence, you've have moved on to something much better then that.
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This is the result of public schools. You should just go join the military or become a cop or prison guard because your future as an enlightened thinker and leader doesn't appear too promising.
Your avatar implies you're 18, I have pairs of boots older than you and frankly, between the two, my boots are more likely to go places.
These points having been made and if you would like to not end up just some mindless minion, you might want to shut up and do a lot of investigating before you come on here to basically call many of us liars. extra DIV
Originally posted by iballs
reply to post by KrypticCriminal
Hey thanks KrypticCriminal. I've seen that film - there's many aspects of the Crop Circle phenomenon which weren't discussed. The micro-magnetic pellets discussed were part of a bigger picture that makes up the circles, also the drone that maps the field - creating an initial imprint.
Thanks for the post. Appreciated it.
Originally posted by seenitall
This WHOLE topic is a joke. When evidence comes out, 'ufologists' and the like will be complaining because they will be shut out while real scientists run the show.
Originally posted by andre18
Originally posted by Itop1
for what reason remains unknown. the governments dont want us to know this... it goes against religion and a whole lot of other things that keep us in order.
The government knows nothing. I know you may think the government may be hiding something but it's extremely clear that they don't because as i pointed out, even though it was a false alarm, SETI thought they had found an extra terrestrial signal and strait away the media found out about it because a member of SETI happened to phone The New York times and there was no men in black, no government take over - nothing.
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