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posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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And this is the other danger that belief in 2012 poses. I have already pointed out supporters in the doomsday theory can have drastic negative impacts on people if nothing happens, but this kind of thinking can be just as dangerous. It leads to the belief that we don't have to be responsible for anything in the world since we're just going to get some kind of Get Out of Jail Free card in 2012.




posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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what calculations? it says "these are my calculations" then immediately says "i've revised blah blah blah" there are no calculations here.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:41 AM
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Errrrp:


...and its debris trail....


It's just a bloody comet!! Not even very massive, at that.....and, it has NO "debris trail"! This is some whimsical vision that has been implanted in people's imaginations, it seems.....

A comet is a mass.....mostly water ice....that, upon approach to a heat source (our Sun, for example) begins to out-gas....forming the "coma" (think of it as a spherical 'halo') that envelops the nucleus. This is just gas and dust, about as dense as the exhaust from your car's tailpipe....

The "tail" is an extension of this coma....it is "blown" by the pressure of the protons and electrons from the Solar Wind.


This is very, very basic astronomy....I urge people to go, study and learn more, on their own. AWAY from the silly "doom" websites....they are full of idiotic garbage written either by jokers who like to whip people's fears, or by uneducated, ill-informed boobs who merely write out their nonsense "opinions".....



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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A comet's tail is no threat whatsoever. It is composed of gas, dust, and some small rocks. We pass through them all the time. That is what causes meteor showers.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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it gives you a reason just another reason to be ready.....trust me, im ready for a lot.....what about you



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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Here is the link you're looking for.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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Comets have two tails.

One made of gas

One made of rocks.......

Rocks a little bit larger than a grain of sand are very dangerous......we track just about everything in orbit bigger than a half dollar to try to keep the space station out of the way


you halfway correct, but you make it seem like you know stuff, like there isnt a danger and we do it all the time....
It was just a week or two ago the people on space station had to go to a safer part because they thought they were going to get hit by a peice of space debris.....It was serious,,,it made MSM.....

you need more research before you post something you think is right



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by charlyv
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Just were is the credibility in "has been discussed time and time again all over the web."? Is that the litmus test for something that should be taken as a hard truth?

NASA is an organization of very very smart people that have dedicated their lives trying to solve the most complex secrets of our universe, and they publish enormous amounts of data and images , without which there would be no material for most of the loonies in this world to pick apart and make unsubstantiated and unscientific wild conjecture in an attempt to fill the obvious void in education and common sense that feeds their delusion.

Would you like pickles with that?


are these the same bunch of geniuses that accidentally misplaced the original moon landing videos?? the single greatest achievement of the human race and they misplaced the video of it?? doesnt sound very intelligent to me.

i mean i know if i bowled a perfect game to manage to video tape a 3 some with 2 of the hottest women on the planet. i would have duplicates and triplicates and have those secured in high security vaults.

what did they do??? tape over them???lol what a joke.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:51 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by predator0187
Jesus Christ 11 flags? Edit 13


We need some sort of verification before giving flags do we not? I have received less flags for ground breaking technology.


I'm not saying he is wrong I'm saying I need some numbers and sources, not just an opinion.

We should wait for judgment until then...

Pred...
edit on 14-4-2011 by predator0187 because: (no reason given)



There are a lot of ATS'ers that will flag/believe something just because it fits their worldview... This is the definition of sheep



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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ISS is a tiny dot in the space compared to the earth itself. I don't know how can they calculate the trajectory of elenin with such an accuracy. Something is not right here. If they are worrying about the elenin hitting the ISS, it is a sure certainty that the elenin will hit the earth also.

It is like if you worry about a space rock may hit your car, it is a 100 percent certainty that the rock will hit the earth. Remember ISS is very tiny object close from the earth compared to any nearest trajectory of any major size comet.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by phantomjack
 


Errrrp:


...and its debris trail....


It's just a bloody comet!! Not even very massive, at that.....and, it has NO "debris trail"! This is some whimsical vision that has been implanted in people's imaginations, it seems.....

A comet is a mass.....mostly water ice....that, upon approach to a heat source (our Sun, for example) begins to out-gas....forming the "coma" (think of it as a spherical 'halo') that envelops the nucleus. This is just gas and dust, about as dense as the exhaust from your car's tailpipe....

The "tail" is an extension of this coma....it is "blown" by the pressure of the protons and electrons from the Solar Wind.


This is very, very basic astronomy....I urge people to go, study and learn more, on their own. AWAY from the silly "doom" websites....they are full of idiotic garbage written either by jokers who like to whip people's fears, or by uneducated, ill-informed boobs who merely write out their nonsense "opinions".....





Another great example of someone who doesnt know what they are talking about......The tail is over 900,000 Km long

spaceobs.org...


Also, in the past few months, not years, months. We have learned many things about comets, such as they are not mostly ice. They are mostly dust and rock with ice being formed at the surface.....

Another example of someone who has not researched before posting.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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A government shutdown does not mean the government locks the doors and disappears. Some services would be disrupted, that's all. Not sure how a budget battle has anything to do with a comet?


kix

posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Can someone post the coordinates for observing the "doom" object?

One of the reasons I almost do not post here, is because ATS has become a joke of doomsday wackos and failed predictions, and YES one prediction on a thread was right and it fuels 300 wrong ones with inside info, conspiracy and such mumbo JUMBO.

Put the path and coordinates, then we that have a decent telescopes, can see for ourselves the suposed "comet of Death".

ATS should ban all those member that post nonsense and troll with disinfo, then again maybe the traffic would return to 2005 levels (John Titor Anyone?)



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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That's a badass comet. To screech through the galaxy with such precision it can hit a moving object a few metres wide.

Wait, I get it now. Someone is piloting. Maybe a cave dwelling dwarf from Alpha Centauri.

Yes, you are being lied to. By feeble minded people with such horrible, pathetic lives that they secretly hope Elenin is coming to free them from the shackles of their miserable existence. Sorry, Elenin is not going to save you (and the mythical figure Christ certainly won't be returning a few months before to "rapture" you away).

This is your life, right here, right now. Deal with it.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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I agree that the ISS needs to be very wary of such debris. However, the poster I was replying to was saying that by passing through the comet's tail we were all going to die. This is fearmongering of the highest caliber and needs to be called out. The Earth regularly passes through such tails and it has never killed us all before.



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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OP actualy was on to something, ive just looked at a few elenin videos on youtube and all the 'intelligently' sounding replys all have accounts created shortly after elenins discovery 10 december 2010.

Mind = Blown

Tinfoil hat = On



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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I dont know why, but I feel that some of the derbis will surely hit the Earth. They might not be big but they will hit us. Well, I hope it wont be my house
That would suck for sure



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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Cool post.! So.. the date oct 23..the date where elenin is supposed to hit us is a lie?? I need to know because i need to know when i have to move out of my city!.. It would be kind of cool if you can put some more information!



posted on Apr, 15 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Sundowner
Sorry my friend, but proof is always, always needed in matters such as these.

uuummm Ok, but I am not going to take your word for it, so prove it.
Show me the proof.

All I see is an OP that has gathered 87 flags, and is verified by a 'NASA source.'





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