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Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
reply to post by ChaosComplex
God only send one down to earth, And that was his son Christ jesus, To show the way the truth and the life.
There is no other way to the father than through the son.
Every other religion, Or story or creation of of Gods other than the holy bible, Is a lie, And if you choose to believe that lie, well then your being part of the grand deception, Satan planned as soon as he fell to earth from heaven, We should be wise because the Devil is wiser than any other creature of the earth, He was gods right hand before he tried to take over gods throne, In the battle in heaven written in revelation when lucifer(light bearer) and his angels fought against GOD and the hosts of heaven,
If you accept that satan is dumb and he is not real, well then you really are decieved, Because this is what he wants people to think hes not real, and that he is stupid, But even GOD said that satan is very wise and cunning.
Originally posted by ChaosComplex
reply to post by Jim Scott
That is correct, however it is only correct if the words are just as you put them, not without. In my statement, the words not and without are used to describe separate phrases. He does NOT demand to be worshiped WITHOUT question.
Just as you would NOT demand that I agree with you, WITHOUT question.
All that aside, I really appreciate the few people actually keeping this somewhat civil!
Call me simple minded, but that confuses me. Sorry.
Originally posted by Akragon
Has anyone considered the theory that evil and good are man made concepts?
Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
reply to post by Akragon
Actually the concept of evil and good, Came from the fruit of the tree knowledge of good and evil rofl. Its written in genesis, Cause man ate the fruit and sinned against God, Theres eyes were opened to what is right and what is wrong, There ya go
Originally posted by ChaosComplex
Originally posted by Akragon
Has anyone considered the theory that evil and good are man made concepts?
Indeed. I have toyed with the idea that all of this just comes from our imaginations...
Then I start to think of how insane of a concept it would be to think of our existence as a mere coincidence, occurring randomly, without some sort of direction or catalyst event...
Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
reply to post by Jim Scott
Im sorry but yeah lucifer is satan, He is the brightest morning star? he was the light bearer on gods behalf before he tried to destroy dethrone God? and jesus Is now the only way to the father, he is our high priest.
Satan is refered to as many things, serpant, Devil, Prince of darkness, Prince of persia, Prince of the air, Lucifer ect.......Lol look at the apple logo , on the back of an ipod or on your imac rofl
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
reply to post by Akragon
Actually the concept of evil and good, Came from the fruit of the tree knowledge of good and evil rofl. Its written in genesis, Cause man ate the fruit and sinned against God, Theres eyes were opened to what is right and what is wrong, There ya go
Genisis was written by man, not God...
Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
reply to post by ChaosComplex
Okay welcome to sunday school 101
Theres the spiritual plane of heaven, Theres the Heavens(Space) and the earth(3rd dimension) right?
So god removed satan of his heavenly place, cast him down with 1/3 of the angels(that are the number of the stars), And who are now known as demons or evil spirits.
Being a spiritual entity they were in heaven, Still are spiritual entities, But when they fell to the earthly realm, They appeared in flesh because they fell from the heavenly realm, Because flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven yes?, So mans spirit is the only thing that grants him access into the after life, whether you are saved and go to heaven, Or are not and choose not to follow god, You go to hell
1Cr 15:39 All flesh [is] not the same flesh: but [there is] one [kind of] flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, [and] another of birds.
1Cr 15:40 [There are] also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial [is] one, and the [glory] of the terrestrial [is] another.
1Cr 15:41 [There is] one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for [one] star differeth from [another] star in glory.
1Cr 15:42 So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Cr 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.
1Cr 15:46 Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Cr 15:47 The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.
1Cr 15:48 As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly.
1Cr 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
edit on 21/02/2011 by InnerstellarOne because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
reply to post by Jim Scott
Im sorry but yeah lucifer is satan, He is the brightest morning star? he was the light bearer on gods behalf before he tried to destroy dethrone God? and jesus Is now the only way to the father, he is our high priest.
Satan is refered to as many things, serpant, Devil, Prince of darkness, Prince of persia, Prince of the air, Lucifer ect.......Lol look at the apple logo , on the back of an ipod or on your imac rofl
My friend you are very wrapped up in the stories in the bible, you have to look a little deeper...find the meaning in the stories...
Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
reply to post by ChaosComplex
Okay welcome to sunday school 101
Theres the spiritual plane of heaven, Theres the Heavens(Space) and the earth(3rd dimension) right?
So god removed satan of his heavenly place, cast him down with 1/3 of the angels(that are the number of the stars), And who are now known as demons or evil spirits.
Being a spiritual entity they were in heaven, Still are spiritual entities, But when they fell to the earthly realm, They appeared in flesh because they fell from the heavenly realm, Because flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven yes?, So mans spirit is the only thing that grants him access into the after life, whether you are saved and go to heaven, Or are not and choose not to follow god, You go to hell
Originally posted by ChaosComplex
****Let me start this by saying I am here to ask questions and learn. I have no intentions of bashing anyone for their beliefs, as I accept all ideas for thought.****
So I decided to start to read the Bible, and already in the first few minutes of reading I have a huge issue.
"1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."
"after his kind" makes me think that these creatures were based on creatures that existed somewhere else...
"1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
What? Let US make? In OUR image? After OUR likeness? What the... How can no one have an issue with this?