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My Military UFO Experience.

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posted on Mar, 14 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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reply to post by BuddyMclean
 

Just remember that they not only want to cover this up but that they made you file an official report that was a lie.

I wonder what oath they took. It must be the one that allows dishonesty.

The next thought you should have is what else is covered up? How much else is just a lie? What won't these bastards do? Are they so shallow that they just accept the best deal even if it results in duplicity?

The last question is what are they willing to do to maintain this 'secrecy'? Are you in danger? How should you respond to that possibility?

It isn't easy being aware of the reality of this mystery. It's cold out here. Jerks asserting your insanity or ignorance, supposed social superiors sneering, scientists lying through their teeth, deletions and obfuscated evasions being presented as fact. Then you have the people who ARE on your side. That's a real group of disparate knowers. People who can divine purpose from these interactions maybe, just maybe could be theorizing.

Craziness everywhere and you are stuck in the middle. You have friends out in the chill but pick through them with caution. Believe in what you experienced and know that other things are going on. Be alert.
Be safe.




posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 12:01 AM
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Thank you. I dont believe I am in any danger (not yet atleast), but if I notice anything strange or out of the ordinary I will post it asap.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 01:58 AM
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sorry to get in late on this thread, but as a soldier in the army currently (and Ive been in since 2001, so Ive been around) I just dont buy that an 03 and an e8 would have any say what so ever on keeping anything "quiet" like that. Maybe they were told, but they wouldnt have been making the decisions, and they certainly would have asked a ton of questions (think of it like kids asking their parents about sex. The parents know all about it because they are "grown ups". Kids e1- e8 (and most e9) and 01- 05/6)



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 03:52 AM
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I was cut off last night before I could reply.

But I personally am calling this story a hoax.

You said you could hear North Korea's propaganda music.

Its South Korea that play propaganda music.

Someone else said its both sides that play the propaganda music.

How can you hear North Korea's propaganda music across the border when South Korea is lined with numerous loud speakers blaring their propaganda music as loud as possible.

My wife is South Korean. She agrees with me.

Edit: Plus, your story sounds like you just watched the UFO dome video and decided to write a story about it.
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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 04:24 AM
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After I was finished, they took my patrol report, and gave me a new one already filled out with my name and the hours I was on duty. They then informed me politely to keep quiet about the situation and to never bring it up again.


What is this? The 1950's or something?

But wait, let me guess, "THEY" were wearing black suits and had dark sunglasses on also didn't they?

Even at night time!


P.S. And to all the people who are gonna start crying me a river saying "Oh stop this you horrible beast, its people like you who make genuine people like this not come forward with their stories boo hoo hoo wha wha wha"

You think I care? I'm calling this a hoax story. It's people like me who get hoax stories put into the hoax bin.

If this story is true, then it shouldn't matter what I say or do.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 06:42 AM
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If you are currently in the Army now, you would know that a Specialist is an E-4, also if you read the story, I was told by my Company Commander, a O-4 & My 1SGT.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 06:43 AM
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Have you or your wife ever been to the DMZ?



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Personally I think you are out of order here, there's simply no proof its a hoax and the music thing was cleared up already in the thread.

You may not like what you read but you have no proof its faked and I feel its bad form to attack when its just a hunch you have, disagree you might but to attack the guy saying he is putting other people off posting is just silly.

Actually people seeing your sort of post is far more likely to put anyone off posting their story in fear of being ridiculed and harassed for simple saying what they saw.
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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 07:00 AM
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My wife and I personally, no. I think the better question is, have you.

Every male South Korean is required to serve 2 years in the army. I asked three of her brothers and they all said the same thing.

North Korea before 2004 played propaganda messages for sometimes 15 hours a day asking any soldiers or farmers etc to stop what they are doing and simply walk across the border and they will be treated as brothers and sisters.

South Korea in turn, BLASTED North Korea with K-pop music.

Both sides ceased these two things when it became a jumbled mess and intolerable to both.

South Korea only just started this up again when North fired a torpedo that sunk a south warship.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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Ok so you are speaking on a subject that you know nothing of first hand, and are just stating things said by your wifes brothers. Yes I have been to the DMZ numerous times, apparently even more than your korean wife. Like I have said before I have nothing to prove or gain by this, i just wanted to share my story, but I feel like you are almost attacking me while trying to catch me in a lie. I know that every korean male must serve 2 years in the ROK military, and I am well aware of the KATUSA program. I was stationed there for 2 years.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 09:02 AM
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Good, then its settled.

I don't want to comment on this any further then this reply, unless I feel the need too.

You told your story.

99% of the people here believed it, I didn't.

I don't know what you were expecting, but just because you told your story doesn't mean every single person here is going to massage your ego and drop to their knees to worship the ground you walk over.

I have every single right to question your story and form an opinion.

I never attacked you once, I questioned a piece of your story that didn't sound right to me and investigated this further to have my suspicions confirmed. This then formed my own opinion that your story was not true (In my opinion!) and to be honest, sounded exactly like the Jerusalem dome video which I stated in my very first reply. The only difference was the UFO light colors were reversed.

I'm sorry you feel saddened about this.

You say you have nothing to gain from telling this story, well I have nothing to gain from not believing it.

As I said before, if this is a true story, then it doesn't matter what I do or say.

You have everyone else's full support here, but you don't have mine.

What can I say.

Sorry bout that?

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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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I have enjoyed your tale Buddy. Have you had this experience only once? It seems like your superiors thought these UFO sightings were very common. How did this experience change your perception on life and even war? I mean, you go to the military to learn to be a soldier, so that you can protect your country or the things your country want protected. Does it change your feeling towards war? Do you now think that fighting fellow humans is still important. I know you said you were an army cop. I'm just trying to get to the psychological impact of one of these sightings.

What is your opinion on governments hiding info on these UFO's? Do you believe that everyone should know the truth, even if it makes people freak out?

I look at the stars every time I can , in anticipation , but with no luck. And FoxfilesMulder, I know you say you don't believe the OP, but your attitude towards him is not very friendly. Everyone can lie, even your wife!
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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by LiquidAsh
I have enjoyed your tale Buddy. Have you had this experience only once? It seems like your superiors thought these UFO sightings were very common. How did this experience change your perception on life and even war? I mean, you go to the military to learn to be a soldier, so that you can protect your country or the things your country want protected. Does it change your feeling towards war? Do you now think that fighting fellow humans is still important. I know you said you were an army cop. I'm just trying to get to the psychological impact of one of these sightings.

What is your opinion on governments hiding info on these UFO's? Do you believe that everyone should know the truth, even if it makes people freak out?

I look at the stars every time I can , in anticipation , but with no luck. And FoxfilesMulder, I know you say you don't believe the OP, but your attitude towards him is not very friendly. Everyone can lie, even your wife!
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Thanks for your comment LiquidAsh. To answer some of your questions, yes this is the only time I ever seen anything like this, and havent seen anything like it since. It changed my perception by making me a believer. As far as war goes, i believe there is no peace without war, but I am 100% AGAINST the war in Iraq & Afghanistan. I originally joined because i thought it was the right thing to do after 9/11, but after serving my term I have had a change of heart. I do not think the government should hide info about ufos, especially because they are hiding a lot more important things that effect the world.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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If I missed this I am sorry. What I am interested in is this:

You mentioned they can to you the following morning and woke yu early they took your letter and they replaced it with one they had already written.

Did you read their letter if so how was it different then what you wrote?



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by FoxfilesMulder
As I said before, if this is a true story, then it doesn't matter what I do or say.

You have everyone else's full support here, but you don't have mine.


And yet...

Originally posted by FoxfilesMulder
You think I care? I'm calling this a hoax story. It's people like me who get hoax stories put into the hoax bin.


If it doesn't matter what you do or say, how is it that people like you get threads put into the hoax bin?

It's statements like these that make me wonder if some of those threads that have landed in the hoax bin are there without warrant. Being skeptical is fine; Necessary even. But in my opinion, your opinion is rather unreasonable, stretching, and based on just as much anecdotal evidence as his. And yet you have such authority to shut down threads.



BTW, thank you for sharing your experience, Buddy. I hope you get to see even more fantastic things in the future!
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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Sir may I ask what has turned you against the war in Iraq and Afganistan?Also I enjoyed the story and I have read many acounts of soldiers seeing things in strife ridden areas.I for one believe you!



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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In my report, i had wrote what i had seen and the times it happened, along with the description. The report they gave me didnt have anything that i had written on it. It only had me reporting for duty, saying i conducted my security checks, then me ending my duties for the night.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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Im against our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan because I dont believe we ever we really had a reason to go there in the first place. I believe it is all about money, and have lost a lot of good friends fighting for something in which our country as a whole will not benefit from.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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Mods, are you guys going to ban Slipdig or what? How many rude comments does it take to finally take out the garbage?



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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I had a similar experience when I was in the military as well.

I was in the Air Force. Currently I am an engineer in the aerospace industry. I have been working with top of the line advanced aircraft for the last 15 years. I have built planes, repaired them, deployed with them, helped design them, etc... For the last 10 years I have been in the advanced R&D field working on planes some people have never even seen. Last I have also been through air traffic control school (ATC). This is not to brag but to lend credibility to the following story >>

Myself and 8 other uniformed gentlemen were out on a training mission in the desert just outside of Area 51 in Nevada (very close). It was a Wednesday night close to midnight...I believe it was around 2340hrs. The guys went out behind our field Intel Center to have a smoke. I don't smoke but went outside to enjoy the cold desert air (upwind).

While they were all chatting away I was checking out the Nevada mountain range in the moonlight and enjoying the silence. All of a sudden just where I was looking to the North North-West was a very bright light. Completely white with no color. As I watched it I was thinking it was a Spec Ops team on a SAR training mission just over the ridge. Then it started to get strange.

As I was trying to figure out what 'they' were doing out there the light kept bugging me. It was the brightest spotlight I had ever seen and the other problem was it was not moving at all and dimming. You can all picture this...when you shine a flashlight directly at a person they see a very bright beam but when you move the angle of that light just a few degrees in the horizontal or vertical axis the light seems to dim from the perspective of the viewer. This is due to the angle o the reflector in the light no longer focusing all the light in the persons direction any longer so he sees a less cumulative light.

While I was watching this light up on top of the mountain range it did not dim....ever. This means that the light would have to have been pointed directly at us the entire time from a significant distance. This is important later.

The light was just hovering above the mountain top which has a very long horizontal peak going for miles. The hovering is why I thought it was a Spec Ops team because they (SAR) were the only ones operating choppers in the area.

All of a sudden another light appears right next to the first one. I'm thinking ..Ok here is another chopper. Then it occurs to me that there is NO SOUND. Not one little peep. You can imagine the middle of the desert at night. Its very quiet. Sound also travels much further on a cold night which is a worry for Spec Ops in general. I'm watching these two hovering objects above the ridge and there is no sound. I thought that was very curious but didn't think much more of it.

THEN...all of a sudden these lights start to rotate around each other slowly in the counter-clockwise direction from our perspective to the South-East of the objects. Right then I knew these were NOT choppers. There is no way in hell they would be doing circles around each other vertically at that proximity to each other. In fact they wouldn't be playing kids games like that at all. That is when I pointed to the guys and said exactly what everyone else here would say "Hey guys...what the hell is that !?" They all turned and saw the same thing. Two very bright lights which did not dim rotating in the sky above the mountain. I said "Holy #...those aren't shoppers what the hell are they?" No one knew. Then I pointed out there was no sound and they didn't hear anything either. There were no sorties (military flights) that night... This mountain range was about 5-10 kliks from our POS. The other side of which is the Area 51 range within the military restricted airspace for the Nevada Test Range.

Right then it occurred to me all the stories for that area may be true. Although due to the location I assumed these were 'our' birds...I still do for some reason but I can tell you I have not seen or heard of such tech in the industry save one time. I used to work at Boeing Phantom Works which is like Lockheed Skunkworks. I heard a Lockheed Engineer refer to some tech as literally out of this world and would not say more. I didn't know what he meant at the time but realized it way later.

Then I had a weird flashback. Apparently I had seen another craft before that and did not have memory of it until now. I think I know why this is but I'll go into that later. This craft I had to look up UFO pictures to describe. It looks like a childs top sort of. It was sort of disc shaped but stretched out above and below like an older tow where you push a threaded rod on the top of a 'top' and it spins the thing for you. This was a truly unbelievable color though. This will sound like I was tripping but it was literally all kinds of colors and they were moving around the object as it flew. I'm thinking it was not the actual color of the object but rather an effect. Possibly some massive EM causing the light to bend and reflect various colors as if the spectrum of light expanded around this thing. I cannot describe it better than that.

I now know why I cannot remember this incident until the next one happened. The have been psychology experiments done where a guy in a gorilla suit will walk through a crowded gymnasium busy with activity. The viewers are asked to describe what they saw afterwards. More than half the people will not report seeing the guy in the gorilla suit. Then they watch it again and it is plain as day. This is why I think I don't remember it until now. The eyes receive an immense amount of data and the brain filters out 90% of it. I can definitely remember being completely freaked out by that one now. I knew this was not a man made craft..no way. The thing was huge...the size of a large blimp but not as long and it hovered and moved slowly with no sound once again. There was an odd hum though. Like a low level wavering hum at low frequency. This one was so strange I must have blocked it out psychologically.

So..that's my military 'UFO' experience. No..we did not report it are you kidding? We were thinking it was a TS craft we owned anyway and reporting that means all kinds of debriefing and security crap...forget it. We just went about our business with a strange story for a later date. And I can tell you I am a fairly solid expert as far as aircraft go..

I've not seen anything like it before and only once afterwards a couple days later during the day. That was another strange sighting but we assumed it was the same craft. This time it was not super bright but was illuminated. It was hovering in one spot then would just disappear and then reappear a few seconds later a mile away from the original position in the horizontal. Then it would repeat that about ten times and finally completely disappeared.

Of course this is all strange as hell. I would not and didn't report to anyone on this until now. It would have been pointless except for anecdote and still is really. You don't have to believe me I really don't care I get nothing out of this save telling a weird story. I still think this is probably advanced tech we own but I can't speculate where the hell we got it from or who would have figured it out. I definitely have not seen any of this tech in the industry and believe me we would be ALL over that because it would be immensely useful. Can't say anything more than that because I don't know any more.



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