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Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by Yankee451
I have seen a lot more than a few camera angles of the plane hitting the tower. I know the plane is real. If it's not (meaning you can apparently prove that every single video of a plane hitting is a fake), then how in the heck can I believe anything at all in the world is real? Am I supposed to assume that all reality is not really reality? If that's the case, then honestly I would prefer to be ignorant since I am not interested in being a paranoid weirdo.
I agree that many of the videos have been tampered with, but not to add planes in. In fact, most of the time it is just little skips here and there that are almost like data errors, except that they happen at just the right times. Those "glitches" are the reason I am open to other possibilities within the towers, but I am not sold on them yet. The planes still make more sense.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by FDNY343
Do you just ignore posts that explain how concrete "melts"? Look for the word degredation on page 12.
When you're not talking about anywhere near the same thing, yes, I do.
How does concrete "degrading" cause the guns to broken apart into pieces as they are encased? Hell, can you show me ANYTHING encased in concrete, that happened after the concrete had already been set?
My educated guess is no, you've never seen anything like this in your life either, and are just offering more layman guesses that will never amount to a legitimate study. There is nothing you can do online to determine what happened to those guns for them to be encased in concrete. You're going to have to learn to deal with that. If you don't care what really happened to them, or what happened at the WTC, and just want to argue with people online, that's all you and it's apparently all you really want anyway.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Hey, when are we going to stop throwing around wild guesses in an internet circle-jerk and actually figure out wtf happened here?
Originally posted by bsbray11
You give me enough money and I'll do the investigation myself.
Originally posted by Game_Over
I can illustrate this very easily to you by "discussing" the fact that WTC 7 was left out of the 9-11 Commission Report.
Originally posted by FDNY343
Yes, I have seen this phenomenon once, and it was from a tanker fire under a bridge. Incredible fire. No, this was not the I-75 fire in Detroit, but simmilar.
Originally posted by Yankee451
As a military operation, electronic devices would be jammed in the combat theater. This was corroborated by the front linemen for the OEM, the NYPD and the FDNY.
Originally posted by FDNY343
Why must WE (General public who have been satisfied with the NIST and other investigations) pay YOU to do another one?
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by FDNY343
Why must WE (General public who have been satisfied with the NIST and other investigations) pay YOU to do another one?
You don't, I'm just saying don't frikkin complain about us doing nothing if you don't have the funds to put up for it either, hypocrites.
And I paid for the NIST report too and I'm NOT satisfied with it! Neither are any of your other tax-paying friends here!
Originally posted by Game_Over
reply to post by FDNY343
You do understand that 7WTC was not in the 9/11 COmmission Report because it was not a target, right?
-- Dude, if that explanation works for you that's great. You see, often these government reports are set up to achieve a desired result. If you do not believe that, fine but it is true. Henry Kissinger was to lead the commission and I am sure that you would have been fine with that. Those who were actually on the commission were not entirely happy with the results either. You see, a real investigation wouldn't have left out something so major that many people were asking questions about just because it wasn't a target. Do you understand that there was no official target list ever acquired, so how can you say it wasn't a target?
"They weren't mentioned either!! OMG!!! Inside Jobbity-job!!!!1!1!11"
-- Either was your house...but it was still a target of 9-11. Oh it wasn't you say? I dare say it was, you have been affected greatly by the outcome of that day. After all the patriot act was made for you my friend.
The 9/11 CR is a POLITICAL report, not an ENGINEERING report.
--well then why do you keep using it to defend the Official Story? I guess if having a political report created and controlled by the very politicians it should be investigating works for you, carry on.
Originally posted by FDNY343
Where are the protests outside the NIST offices?
Where are the dozens of congressman who are reporting that they are innundated with calls and letters from people that are not satisfied with the NIST report?