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Fact is simple. Justice is restoration of things before event x. In some cases, murder is the only solution for justice.
And your need to divert to non-related fields in order to keep the debate going for the sake of keeping the debate going is pathetic.
To put it simple, the mother has precedents. No difference between a person in a vegetative state being unplugged by the guardian's will. Your life is in the hands of your caretakers, and their right judgement is in to if you go on or not. Sometimes Justice means pulling the plug.
And in the end, like it or not, that's just the way it is.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Maslo
Yes I can differentiate. I just did.
This is true. SO then why not ban abortion?
But you assume I would be against it being banned. I would not. i would merely be willing to accept the contradiction of letting rape victims do what they want with the unborn child.
Oh my. It seems you do not understand that a person can support a way of governing even if they results of that system allow things they do not agree with.
1. all embryos and fetuses have full human rights.
2. embryos and fetuses can be legally murdered if they were conceived during rape
Welcome to the contradiction that is abortion. Congratulations, you're learning.
There is only one choice of two. You either accept the lesser contradiction, or you ban it all together.
Fact is a bowl made during a murder scene is just the same as a bowl made at a normal bowl factory. But the murder scene one is treated fundamentally different, despite being the same.
Originally posted by ucantcme
To me the only people who are racist are the ones who bring up racism in the first place. I dont get why some people dont understand that we are all people no mater the color of our skin. The abortion thing is a choice. I myself would never do it but i dont judge those who do as it is their personal choice. Not everyone has the same morals and we should all accept that we are different and have different opinions. Why would we all want to be the same? You would never meet any intresting or exciting people if we all had the same thoughts and opinions. The world would be dull. Just my opinions!!edit on 8-3-2011 by ucantcme because: (no reason given)
Abortion is not a contradiction if you use my law to deal with it. YOU are making a stance that contradicts itself. You have two perfectly internally consistent options that do not result in ANY logical contadiction to choose from:
1. ban all abortions, even in cases of rape, all embryos have human rights from conception
2. allow all abortions (up to some decided limit), for whatever reason, ALL embryos until that limit do not have any human rights, after it, ALL have them