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In the bad old days of the 1800s, when it was legal for employers to discriminate against anyone they pleased, job postings used to say things like: "No Irish Need Apply." Now the unemployed, it seems, have become the new Irish: In advertisement after advertisement, employers come right out and tell them they're not wanted. Right now CareerBuilder, one of the biggest job sites on the web, has a posting for an entry-level engineer. The candidate, it says, will perform structural analysis of telecommunications cell towers. A civil engineering degree is required, an undergrad GPA of at least 3.4 as is knowledge of AutoCAD. Some travel is required. Oh, and there's one other thing: "No layoff candidates."
Yes they are indeed. I've been there, lived that. The only advice I can give is that for many, you will have to become what is called an "independent contractor". That means no benefits, you get paid by the hour, and cover your own expenses. But it is better than nothing.
Look anywhere where jobs are posted, and you'll see more examples. This discrimination isn't subtle. It's not covert. It's right out in the open, stated in the listings: A phone manufacturer looking to fill a marketing job stipulates "No unemployed candidates will be considered at all." An electronics firm looking for an engineer says it will "Not consider/review anyone NOT currently employed regardless of the reason." A Craigslist posting for an assistant restaurant manager in New Jersey says all applicants "Must be currently employed."...As for the help wanted notices, "What you see stated in the advertisements is just the tip of the iceberg...For every ad that's explicit, many more have the same policy but don't say so.
Originally posted by whoshotJR
Companies are learning that the trend for people is to work for them and then try and get fired or laid off for something that will get them unemployment and then milk it. When or if they get kicked off they do it again, I see it pretty frequently.
If you think that just because a company says they are equal opportunity and don't have any prejudices that that's the truth you are a sucker. Every person has beliefs they have formed over the years and they will apply it to the people they interview even if they don't think they are.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
This has been my issue. I am 54. I keep telling people that competing with 20- and 30-somethings is the biggest reason that despite over 35,000 job applications since I was laid off in 2006 I am still unemployed.
They don't believe me when I say I am discriminated against because of my age. "It's illegal," they say. So? Like that means anything. I can see it in the eyes of interviewers when I walk in the door. "Oh. She's old." And I know right there I'm not getting the job.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by Mr. D
Oh, indeed. I know that my efficiency, tenacity, organization, analysis, enthusiasm, attention to detail, ability to learn extremely quickly, and loyalty are far greater than virtually anyone else they are looking at - but I never get a chance to prove that.
I keep applying, though.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
We just need to opt out of their system altogether. Its just more and more clear. There is no way to play their game and remain a human being.