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Originally posted by inkyminds
reply to post by Camperguy
So your theory is that teachers should get paid less because schools are overcrowded, and you dont care if children are educated, as long as they are baby sat while mom and dad drone away at the office?
Edit: my apologies. My sarcasm radar is defective. Damn Microsoft. Hop it didnt screw up my gaydar too.edit on 25-2-2011 by inkyminds because: (no reason given)
The $51,000 salary figure is further substantiated by district-by-district data provided by the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction.
However, according to a spokeswoman for the Wisconsin Education Association Council, the Fox figure for Wisconsin teacher benefits -- $39,000 -- is way too high. Average benefits amount to about $25,000 a year, said Marlena Deutsch, a spokeswoman for WEAC. In total compensation, Wisconsin ranks 23rd in the nation.
We couldn't find a definitive, independent state average for benefits in Wisconsin, but the data from the state Department of Public Instruction lists "fringe benefits" by district in Wisconsin. None were as high as $39,000. The median was about $25,800.
According to a national compensation survey conducted by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the total cost of compensation to private industry employees last year came to about $58,000
Originally posted by inkyminds
Originally posted by firepilot
The good teachers are underpaid, and the bad ones are overpaid. Unfortunately with teachers union rules, you cant just make the differentiation.
And, unfortunately for people like Walker, 'teacher's unions' also prevent people like Walker from fring them for any ol reason.
Also, you ARE aware this is about FAR more than just 'teacher's' unions?
Originally posted by dizzie_lizzie79
reply to post by doommarine3
control? my son is adhd...and yes they are difficult to deal with but i don't have an issue at home with Controlling him but yet the school seems to insist i drug my son up everyday for school, if not you get cps called on you and then they threaten to take your kids!
Hummm...back in my day, the parents got a phone call, a referral in the mail, and the child would have harsh school punishments as in ISS. Now your lucky if you find out what the heck your kid is doing wrong cause you either don't get a call and the refferal shows up two weeks later! Maybe us parent could back the teachers up a little bit more if we knew what was going on WHEN it happened...sooner or later the kids would give the respect the teacher deserves.
I understand teaching is stressful but 100,000 a year? Maybe school districts should make the classrooms smaller if its so difficult to "CONTROL"
Originally posted by Make Speed Limit 45
Math and science teachers are in short supply and are the most important of teachers and are arguably worth big salaries, but in most schools the unions won't allow that.
We need to drastically alter schools and get rid of the useless verbal courses like history and literature. If students want to learn that BS, they can teach it to themselves.