Originally posted by RANT
But I will say this talk scares me...
Originally posted by cavscout
So, thanks to federal air-passenger disarmament laws...
That's the kind of thing freaking me out about Libertarians lately. What's with the whole "government de-arming hijack victims" rant?
Do you really want people to be able to take guns on airplanes? I don't even like them in cars though I see you do. If you're saying the more guns
we have in public the better, but it's not "wild wild west" can you tell me the historical model it is? Or an acceptable name for discussion?
[Edit: "Total Armament"?]
Someone, anyone tell me why background checks, waiting periods and safety devices are bad?
o.k. lets start with the airline question. it is a myth that a bullet hole (or 100 bullet holes) can bring down a plane due to de-pressurization. If a
large enough percentage of passengers were armed, a terrorist organization would have to field a whole company size element on a single plane to take
it over. Thats not likely to happen the way we have been screening passengers and if it did, the terrorists would loose quite a few freinds that day,
too many to make it worthwhile for them. the reason they used box-cutters is that they were GUARANTEED BY THE GOVERNMENT LAWS THAT THE CIVILIANS WOULD
BE UNABLE TO DEFEND THE PLANE.
So, all knee jerks and emotion aside, why dont you want them armed?
here is the "historical model" you asked for.
"Since the origins of the Swiss Confederation in 1291, it has been the duty of every male Swiss citizen to be armed and to serve in the militia.
Today, that arm is an 'assault rifle,' which is issued to every swiss male and which must be kept at home. Durring Germany's Third Reich, that arm
was a bolt-action repeating riffle, shich was highly effective in the hands of Switzerland's many sharpshooters
"On September 1, 1030, Hitler launched WW2 by attacking Poland. Within a day or two, Switzerland had about half a million militiamen mobilized out of
a population of just over four million."
-author Stephen P. Halbrook, Target Switzerland: Swiss Armed Neutrality in World War II
General Henri Cuisan, commander in cheif of the Swiss militia, responded by ordering that, among other things, this Swiss were to resist "to the last
cartidge" and to "fight in their position untill no more ammunition exists. Then cold steel is next. ..." Posters proclaiming this "opperations
order number two" were displayed on walls all over the country.
Hitler never invaded Switzerland.
Never has any dictator-military or otherwise-attempted to rule the Swiss by "executive order."
There was no holocaust on Swiss soil. Swiss Jews kept their riffles in their homes just like everyone else. Can you imagine that would have been a
holocaust had the Jews of Germany, Poland, and France had the same privilage as the Swiss Jews?
Swiss citizens to this day have almost no gun laws (America has over 20,000). In Switzerland, any male can own a shoulder fired, heat seeking
THERE IS ALMOST NO CRIME IN SWITZERLAND DESPITE EVERY MALE HAVING ASSUALT WEAPONS OF MILITARY SIGNIFICANCE.
O.K., so far as waiting periods are concerned..........
Philip Russell Coleman was a 42 year old night shift employee as a liquor store in Shreveport, LA. Not feeling safe being there untill 1 a.m., he went
to see Jim Roberts at the USA Pawn Shop, where he was a regular customer, and picked out chrome-plated .380 Lorcin semi-automatic. He put a down
payment on the weapon and filled out the application form required by the Brady Law.
Under the Brady Law, the local police had 3 days to approve or deny permission for the sale. Coleman came back to the pawn shop on Friday, expecting
to pick up his gun.
Although he fully answered the questions right and truthfull, USA Pawn had to tell him that th Caddo Parish Sheriff's Office had rejected his
Colman was neither a felon or a mental patient, he told employees.
"He said he needed the gun for his own protection because he worked late hours at the liquor store and he felt it was dangerous," shop owner Roberts
later told the daily Shreveport times
. "I told him to go down and straighten it out with the sheriff's office, and I guess he did"
Coleman didnt return to the shop that day. There wasn't time. Instead, he went directly to work without his gun-and was shot to death just as his
shift ended at 1a.m. saturday.
The Sheriff's office notified the pawn shop by fax on the following Tuesday that his application had been RECONCIDERED AND APPROVED.
Sometimes it is hard to argue against backround checks and waiting periods. The loved ones of Philip Russell Coleman disagree.