Originally posted by mysticnoon
reply to post by NewAgeMan
Ok for those who will, here`s the first question - After reading this, sit back, close your eyes, relax, and think back to your very earliest memory,
the very first, where, in the event or occurance of `what happened` you became AWARE, call it your eye-opener. It`s usually something that might have
happened when we were maybe three or four (past life memories excluded for the sake of this process) and when it happened, our childlike thought in
reaction may be been SOMETHING IS WRONG or SOMETHING`s WRONG WITH ME! The first memory, which produced in us, our first strong and powerful sense of
My very first conscious awareness was a profound sense of disappointment and even shock that I was back here in this world. The way my infant mind
processed that awareness resulted in a strong feeling of guilt, being convinced that I must be a very bad person.
As I spent the first 30 years of my life grounded solidly in atheism, I had nothing to which to anchor this awaerness, so the guilt had persisted
throughout those earlier years.
OK, I'll now read what else you have to say. Just wanted to share this memory as it occured to me.
Thank you for sharing.
Then you must have assigned a meaning to "the world" as fundamentally a very very dangerous place to be! Is that a fair assumption, since arriving
here, finding yourself here (again as you say) could be a punishment for somehow being bad, meaning that this world is a bad and nasty place, frought
with peril, and it is, to a degree. The point here is that your young mind made a powerful eye-opening distinction, horrified and even guilty, for
having been born into this world in the first place. I don't mean to put words in your mouth just feeding back based on what I was hearing you say,
and extrapolating from that, a sense of foreboding, and issues of remorse and guilt, all under the threat of, or in the exacting of punishment, for
doing SOMETHING wrong - it makes perfect rational sense from the perspective of such a being, for whom is SHOULD NOT BE what it is, and therefore >I<
must be to blame at some level for this, this indignity and injustice of having to endure such hardship as this place! The poor little soul (you as a
I would like to draw a distinction here if I could, and that is between what REALLY happened and the meaning extrapolated by a small child.
Now, how might you have responded to this unfortunate circumstance? Might it be possible that one way of being in response, might be timidity, and the
preference for known safety, to the risks of the threatening dangers of the world that might await any further forrays into it? Any such being would
shrink away from the world as a realm of possibility, and would give that up in a heartbeat to be safe and secure and whole and at peace again, if
possible heading right back into the womb from which he emerged.. ?
I would now invite you to look at the whole breadth of your life to date, from that day, to this one, and ask yourself the question - is this how I've
reacted to the world all my life, with a certain timidity and hesitancy and with great reluctance, thinking this life somehow a punishment for being
bad. I don't know about you, and of course we all experience this in one way or another, but me if that were my predominant outlook, at least that
from the perspective of a two year old baby (or maybe even younger in the case of your memory), I wouldn't risk doing ANYTHING, anything at all which
might incur punishment, and risk NOTHING for the sake of highly intense life experiences. Meek, isolated, protected, safe and secure would end up
being my domain. If I were such a being looking back, I might then start to notice, however painfully it might be to consider, at first, the extent
and the magnitude to which this particular POV, in reaction to the reality of LIFE (which is only one possible of many many viewpoints available in
this world), may have held me back, and perhaps prevented me from gaining access to a much much wider experience of life, wherein the "risks" of
leaving the comfy cozy world of softness and light, might contain imbedded within them, to the contrary from all manner of punishemnt, corresponding
REWARDS the likes of which were hiterto otherwise outside the realm of what is generally accessible to me, in accordance with my existing "strong
suit", one of practical, extremely grounded, and highly conservative safety, denoted by an isolating lonliness and sorrow that this "safety"
In other words, is it at all possible that such a worldview and paradigm, while saving us perhaps from potential harm in a mean cruel world - has
nevertheless resulted in a self-constraining or self-limiting way of being and of life...?
There is of course no judgement here whatsoever or making wrong here at all, let's be straight about that, these are just ideas for consideration, but
if it rings true, then the implications are astounding, adn are both sad on the one hand, and, absurdly amuzing on the other, than a tiny infant could
have such power to shape the course of the rest of our entire life, while preventing us from being the most fully self expressed and adventurous self
Your "strong suit" in this case, of being pratical, grounded, down to earth, introverted, contemplated, quiet, humble, "meek" can now serve you to the
hilt, while at the same time making accessible a new possibility as a created way of being - adventurous, willing to take risks both in life and in
self expressed human relations, to be bold where before you were timid and remained silent, to lead where before you were relegated to silently
following (perhaps with some resentment), to explore where before you had to remain in safety and comfort, and guilt free but risk free living.
Could this realization, if true, open anything up for a person, in spite of the fact that we're only talking here about the interpretation of a very
small and innocent fragile child, who set the whole thing in motion from the get go, driving one very prominent aspect of our life as possibility (or
When we get present to this - some of us are astonished, and we exclaim "this is absurd", while erupting in laughter, the child recovered and made a
valuable resource and ally now!
This is "OmegaPoint Logotherapy", or a part of it anyway.
For more on this (OPLT), feel free to visit page 7 of the Alchemy Thread linked in my sig.
I'm willing to place this model, or methodology out for consideration and mutual grokking, and am here putting it to the test.
Of course your formative event will have spun out in many different directions producing in the process all manner of gifts and talents formed as your
strong suit for many reasons and I would just like to see them all gifted back to you in full, you deserve everything, and I'm sure if you're like the
rest of us, you've already suffered enough in this dangerous and punishing world, right?
So to run with a new way of being and thinking I would like to suggest a new mantra to replace the babies horror - "the world is what we make of it"
again don't jump on me here this isn't intended as a taking of your inventory or anything like that, just illustrating the logic or the logos of the
meaning of story, and how our life story can get started and what it creates as a reaction/response wherein "that which we resit, persists". (Jung).
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