NEW Graphic Analysis on the Videos of UFO's over KUMBURGAZ, TURKEY w/ ET Pics

reply to post by ziggyproductions05


im not mixing the three videos. im stating the video was edited
and the object does not look real it looks like a toy. it looks like someone
is holding a toy in the air. again im not sure how to say this but the video doesnt look genuine
how else can i explain it to? there is no magical video. its commonsense

i have watched several videos on youtube and i think this is funny.
it is obvious a fake. they are playing with the lighting on the object.
ever wonder why the object is visible in the pitch black but yet there is
no light source from the object itself? then you can see in the begining of the video
they are adjusting the light so you can see it. its a hoax


compare the lighting behind the two videos there is a difference. i am not saying the second one is or is not real


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This is such an obvious fake I can't begin to understand how this reached 14 pages.



1:14 - Date changes 1 day forwards.

1:17 - This could be anything from a toaster oven to a child's toy being filmed at a dark room while shaking.

2:10 - Giveaway point. This is clearly a fake attempt. Note that the "UFO" (more like lens dirt/scratch) only "moves" when the camera is moving. Not only that, but the object "flies fast" only when the cameraman zooms in, obviously enough the same thing should happen when it zooms out, and it does happen. To make a long story short - the "UFO" is in direct co-ordination with the moon's positioning on the video, hence it is only a little piece of dirt or a scratch on the lens that simply reflects the moon. Nothing more nothing less.

2:27 - Date changes again, several days forwards lol.

2:28 - Again, this zoomed images of the "craft" does not seem to be a part of the cameraman zooming in on something, but rather the whole scene starts from the point where the object is at a stand-still point. It would be semi legitimate if they showed what are they zooming in at.

2:56 - Am I supposed to believe that the cameraman managed to take incredible images of a little UFO while not being able to catch the flippin' moon out of focus? LOL!

3:04 - Again this "object" appeared only zoomed in while the cameraman insists on filming it while shaking helplessly and not zooming out at all. I find it hard to believe the cameraman hadn't zoomed out to show the wider area in his film, especially if the UFO was at a standstill point like he said.

3:46 - Date changes again. Lol.

From here till the ending it all comes down to capturing an object in a dark surrounding and claiming it is a UFO.

And as for 6:30 - It's not above the sea buddy, it's (the light) just appears to be. In reality this is an object on the water, it just appears to "float" because the camera cannot record anything which is not luminary, beyond the sea point. It's difficult to explain so I'll demonstrate with an image.

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^This is the full image



Fake.

reply to post by IsraeliGuy


well at least someone else saw it was fake

Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
This is such an obvious fake I can't begin to understand how this reached 14 pages.



1:14 - Date changes 1 day forwards.

1:17 - This could be anything from a toaster oven to a child's toy being filmed at a dark room while shaking.

2:10 - Giveaway point. This is clearly a fake attempt. Note that the "UFO" (more like lens dirt/scratch) only "moves" when the camera is moving. Not only that, but the object "flies fast" only when the cameraman zooms in, obviously enough the same thing should happen when it zooms out, and it does happen. To make a long story short - the "UFO" is in direct co-ordination with the moon's positioning on the video, hence it is only a little piece of dirt or a scratch on the lens that simply reflects the moon. Nothing more nothing less.

2:27 - Date changes again, several days forwards lol.

2:28 - Again, this zoomed images of the "craft" does not seem to be a part of the cameraman zooming in on something, but rather the whole scene starts from the point where the object is at a stand-still point. It would be semi legitimate if they showed what are they zooming in at.

2:56 - Am I supposed to believe that the cameraman managed to take incredible images of a little UFO while not being able to catch the flippin' moon out of focus? LOL!

3:04 - Again this "object" appeared only zoomed in while the cameraman insists on filming it while shaking helplessly and not zooming out at all. I find it hard to believe the cameraman hadn't zoomed out to show the wider area in his film, especially if the UFO was at a standstill point like he said.

3:46 - Date changes again. Lol.

From here till the ending it all comes down to capturing an object in a dark surrounding and claiming it is a UFO.

And as for 6:30 - It's not above the sea buddy, it's (the light) just appears to be. In reality this is an object on the water, it just appears to "float" because the camera cannot record anything which is not luminary, beyond the sea point. It's difficult to explain so I'll demonstrate with an image.

img267.imageshack.us...
^This is the full image



Fake.

edit on 8-1-2011 by IsraeliGuy because: (no reason given)

the object was filmed over several days that is why the date changes

Originally posted by surfnow2
i have watched several videos on youtube and i think this is funny.
it is obvious a fake. they are playing with the lighting on the object.
ever wonder why the object is visible in the pitch black but yet there is
no light source from the object itself? then you can see in the begining of the video
they are adjusting the light so you can see it. its a hoax


compare the lighting behind the two videos there is a difference. i am not saying the second one is or is not real


www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

edit on 8-1-2011 by surfnow2 because: (no reason given)

it is not obvious that it is a fake..doesn't look fake at all to me..nice try though

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the object was filmed over several days? isnt that a red flag? the object was in the same place over several days
the footage changes from day to night instantaneously. the object itself looks like a plastic toy.
with two gi joes figure in it.

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Have you ever thought when the date changes its a different day?

reply to post by incontenant


not when it is instantaneous. the film has been edited heavily

reply to post by surfnow2


The new research shows a third gi joe that moves.

Thats some toy.

reply to post by Overtime


its a cut down star ship enterprise

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The Istanbul sighting is an important one for many reasons. There are over 12 witnesses, including Dr. Roger Leir. The video has been heavily examined by several well known photographic experts as listed below. So far nobody has been able to demonstrate that the recordings are product of tricks or some type of manipulation. I am not endorsing this case, but I simply feel that the ufo community needs to be told about it.

This case developed in the location of Kumburgaz between the years 2007, 2008 and 2009. Its main witness was a night guard named Yalcin Yalman, while on duty who registered on video these strange objects that appeared at sunrise like floating or changing while in flight over the sea coast of Marmara.

Many special effects/imaging experts tried to debunk the footage: Prof. José Atenas, an expert in graphics and video, with more than 30 years of experience on television. Prof. phD. Zeki EKER Director National Council For The Study Of Science And Technology (TUBITAK) and National Observatory , and Mario Valdes- Santiago Chile. Other analysis were done by video specialist, image edition and special effect companies from Japan, Russia and Turkey, all ending up with the same conclusions that the images are authentic.

Short Documentary Video
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Mario Valdes Image Analysis
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Report by Prof. phD Zeki EKER
turkeyufocase.blogspot.com...
Istanbul Sighting
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33 Minute Segment
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Turkey UFO EBEs
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Camera Details
The camera was based on the NTSC System with a diaphragm set at the maximum of 1.8. Canon DM-GRI-A. It's a 3CCD 20x optic 100x with a tele-converter mounted on a 58mm adapter. Tele-objective is a Sony brand vci hgd 1758 model lens, x 1.7.

Yalman Explains the Camera
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Case Overview:
During the summer of 2007 an extremely close-up video of a "metallic ufo" made the rounds of ufology. Unfortunately it was taken at night the lack of horizon and background. Because so many videos on youtube are hoaxes, me and others were very skeptical.

2008, many people reported ufos nationwide around Turkey. That is when a night guard was able to capture several minutes of daytime and nightime footage at a facility known as the "Yeni Kent Compound" located near the Sea of Marmara, Istanbul. Between May and August, there was another wave of UFOs. Now daylight footage was taken of the object exposing the horizon and background giving us more detail of the distance. There was also night video taken of a "metallic disc" object hanging in mid air out over the sea several hundred feet up that has been examined over and over by several well known special effects experts.
2009
Between May and June 2009, orange oval objects and a metallic ufos were seen by over a dozen people hovering over the Sea of Marmara. Several key people, including Roger Leir, stood by the camera as the footage was taken. Second hand witnesses can verify that what's seen on the video is not staged, model, or a hoax. An important portion of the video starting at (night) 4:59 a.m., until after (sunrise) at 5:32 a.m. Now it becomes clear that we are looking at an object several hundred yards away in the horizon over the sea. This is important because some people, including myself, thought at first it could be a model or prop very close to the camera, but the object is not close to the camera it is pretty far away.

2008 Original Footage Video
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2009 Original Footage Video
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2008 Daylight Video
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2009 Daylight Video
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Roger Leir was there. Recently on a radio program Roger Leir added:

"it was two years in a row. I was there both times looking through the viewfinder of the camera. Now the camera was mounted on sticks and it had a 200 mil lense and an electronic dobuler so we were able to push very very close on the craft. Now just as a background the craft was lit by a moon that was very very bright in the sky and so that illuminated the exterior portion of the craft" "it was sent in an proven that it was not a hoax and what was being seen was reality"
Listen to Roger Leir’s remarks here:
(Audio)Dr. Roger Leir Describes Turkey UFO
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Dr. Roger Leir Lecture on Turkey UFO Video
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At first, the videos were analyzed and made public by the SIRIUS UFO organization, directed by the researcher Haktan Akdogan. Sirius UFO Space Science Research Center firstly, spoke with all the witnesses separately then did the detailed analysis of the full footage of 2 hours 30 mn. long videos with the participation of the members of a science board. They enlarged the video images, did all the detailed analysis, checked their pixels, and went through the all footage frame by frame. After doing all the necessary analysis which went on for several weeks. SIRIUS released the following statement:
--"the objects sighted in the aforementioned footages that have a structure that is made of specific material are definitely not made up by any kind of computer animation nor are they any form of special effects used for simulation in a studio or for a video effect therefore in conclusion it was decided that the sightings were neither a mockup or hoax. And it is concluded that these objects in the sightings that have physical and material structures do not belong in any category such as; planes, helicopters, meteors, Venus, Mars, satellites, fire balls, Chinese lantern, fire balls, wheather ballons, natural or atmospheric phenomenon. etc. and but rather fall into the category of UFO’s. The incident went on several times intermittently before the very eyes of the residents of "Yeni Kent Compound", filmed by a night guard named Yalcin Yalman. The detailed analysis of a certain portion of these extraordinary videos showed that three different objects were captured at the same time."

SIRIUS UFO and Space Research (english website)
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Haktan Aktagan Explanation Part 1
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Haktan Aktagan Explanation Part 2
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The government sponsored National Council For The Study Of Science And Technology (TUBITAK) and National Observatory (TUG) got interested in analyzing the original footage, with the intention of determining that the video was nothing more than a hoax, gambling on the idea of scale models or toys, or CGI. The original tape was handed to the TUBITAK representatives on live TV in their own headquarters. Once the analysis concluded, they gave an official report, from which I took the following fragment:
"The objects observed on the images have a structure made of a specific material and definitely itís no any kind of CGI animation or in any means a type of special effects used for simulation in a studio or for video effects. So the conclusion of this report is that the observations are not a model, maquette or a fraud". At the last part of the report, it’s concluded that the objects observed have a physical structure and are made of materials that do not belong to any category (airplanes, helicopters, meteors, Venus, Mars, Satellites, artificial lights, Chinese lanterns, etc.) and that it mostly fits in the category of UFO’s (Unidentified Flying Objects and of unknown origin).
The Scientific and Technological Council of Turkey
www.tubitak.gov.tr...;jsessionid=B7809E5C0656F9DA6ED197EF343F23BB
Report by Prof. phD Zeki EKER
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This case is very interesting. It does not seem fake to me.
If it was just one bad video, then maybe.
But different days, and different times, showing the object at night, and then with lights in the day.
And the creatures, though hard for me to really see, do seem realistic.

I'm glad we have this footage, and quite a lot, and even what could be creatures, and it's a physical craft, which is so so much better than lights in the sky.

DEMON!!

Very nice post OP , i didnt realise we have caught anything like this. I hope this is real , its super interesting. Very nice!

Now ... lets hope they arnt flesh eating lol

We really should set up our own ATS lab.

It's obvious we have some serious experts, when we have posters who can "examine" and come to a conclusion in minutes, versus those "supposed" experts who spend a lot more time analyzing the video.

The mere fact the person who filmed it ALLOWED it to be examined by more than one expert source, rather tells me that they at least, believe it to be real. I still haven't heard a single valid "debunking" of this. The yacht one made me chortle though.

Originally posted by tom502
This case is very interesting. It does not seem fake to me.
If it was just one bad video, then maybe.

There are 3 equally bad videos, isn't that a bit odd? What strikes me about all these videos is that Yalman seems to hide information from us on purpose, by playing with contrast for example. His videos haven't been properly debunked because there's not enough information in them.

Why do people like you assume they would be using some kind of conventional thrust/rocket to travel into deep space?!?!?!!? What stupidity. They will have developed a much easier way of circumventing this 'law' by not even attempting to travel in a straight line from point A to B. We already know in our limited understanding that worm holes are theoretically possible. And yet we don't truly understand how gravity is created or works..TRULY we don't. So please, any species 1000 years or more ahead of where we are now will have an understanding of things you cant imagine. And I doubt they are trying to cross the universe with a rocket. DUMB. Space travel for them will be like you going from LA to Oregon or something..no big deal, quick, routine and within the a reasonable time frame.

JEEZ people...

"Now seriously think about it, even if reaching the speed of light was possible, which its not. You are looking at YEARS in deep space. Any organism that moves around whether similar to us or not is going to have to have some way of using up one form of matter and converting it to energy to power the biological being/creature. Now if you could assemble a craft in 0g where takeoff weight is not an issue you could maybe meet the needs for a food/fuel source to sustain a population. Next you would have to conquer the "artificial gravity" conundrum to prevent bodily decay. As any 'biological being would have had to develop under the presence of gravity, therefore removing that element would have consequences. Even if you could do that you still face the daunting challenge of years in a confined space under rationing of provisions. Assuming you get past that, what happens if they did find earth? As is pretty much law in physics, by the time you got back to your planet 100's of years would have passed. If they were at all like us, they went exploring to conquer, or because they burned up their own planet and need ours. Because they only achieve through necessity. If they weren't like us, would they even care to go through the hassle of all that to meet some cavemen by their standards?

Ok Mario Valdes website was taken offline for many months. It is now back up on this link

archivosovni2.blogspot.com...

I think it would be smart of you to download everything before it gets removed from the internet

also this is well done

Wow the analysis really does a lot of reaching...