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Whats up with all of the U.S hater/bashing lately?

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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 03:34 PM
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there is a huge difference between nationalism and patriotism.

i love my country, but i do not support the behavior of our government.

i will always be an American, no doubt.

even when our country goes financially belly up, because it will, and it is all by design.

that is the point that people will have to love their country, because the government will no longer exist.

we are in a situation that is no different than the fall of the ex-soviet union; however, unfortunately we are also in a situation similar to the weimar republic prior to the rise of national socialism.

we are a country that has been bankrupted by the banks, and due to the massive amount of propaganda, we actually blame this on our own extravagance.

we are not extravagant people. we are Americans.




posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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A Warning from a Former KGB Agent

In 1985, a former trained KGB agent, Yuri Bezmenov explained in an interview to G. Edward Griffin, the four stage process by which the communists work through “ideological subversion” to transform a free nation to a communist state.

According to Bezmenov, the first stage of the process is demoralization, which involves removing the moral foundations of a nation, and exposing a nation to the ideology of Marxism. This process takes fifteen to twenty years to complete, as this is the minimum number of years one can educate a generation of students.

Demoralization will eventually lead to the second stage of the subversive process, destabilization. This may take as little as two to five years. This leads to the third stage, a crisis, which can then bring about the fourth stage, normalization. Normalization is when a crisis, of whatever kind, enables the government to take over the economy, eliminate free market competition and bring in a big brother government and traditional Marxism. The public will have become conditioned to welcome the government’s takeover in order to provide a solution to the crisis. Bezmenov warned that the U.S. had already passed through the first stage of demoralization, and was on its way to embracing full-blown Marxism.

Examples of how the U.S. has been demoralized include the removal of prayer and bible reading from schools in 1962 and 1963 respectively, and the subsequent removal of the Ten Commandments from schools in 1980, and the legalization of abortion on demand following the Roe v. Wade case in 1973.

In an interview on Edge Media Television, anti-EU researcher David Noakes from the UK refers to the two hundred plus subversion techniques of the Frankfurt School, that were adopted by the European Union from the 1950's. Examples include the emptying of churches, mindless TV programmes, breaking up of families, corruption of courts, 24 hour drinking, media brainwashing, the teaching of homosexuality, and the undermining of a nation’s constitution. In the case of Britain this means propagating the myth that Britain does not have a constitution, in the U.S. it means continually violating and undermining the constitution. With these kinds of measures having now been in place for several decades, the process of demoralization is complete.
Have We Now Reached the Crisis Stage?

Many politicians and bankers have openly declared the need for a crisis in order to achieve their agenda. At a UN dinner in 1994, David Rockefeller, an enormously powerful international banker stated “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order.”

In early 2009, at the time of a global financial crisis and just days before President Barak Obama was sworn into office, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger stated “His task will be to develop an overall strategy for America when, really, a new world order can be created. It’s a great opportunity, it’s isn’t just a crisis.” Rahm Emanuel, former White House Chief of Staff to President Obama also stated “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.”

It appears that the U.S. and other nations are now at or approaching the brink of a crisis that will be great enough to create the necessary public support for bigger and more controlled government, a big brother state with a loss of freedom and personal liberty. Indeed, some will argue that this is already happening.

Political Correctness, originally known as the Cultural Marxism derived from the Frankfurt School, with its attack on free speech and demand for diversity and tolerance over everything except individuals and ideologies that are deemed ‘intolerant,’ is the beginning of the process of transforming a free nation into a Marxist state.


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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 07:47 PM
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I have seen the video and read the planks to communism that are enshrined in our national archives and I think that most Americans would be shocked at how far down the road we are as a country toward destruction.

I personally would say that I am a anti-federalist Constitutionalist.

The US Constitution was subverted with the creation of the organic act of 1871.

This act established the United States (tm) as a corporation open and ready to do business.

I think that the road to destabilize America was started much farther back than 20 years ago.

The Bill of Rights was a very powerful statement that was put into place by the Anti-Federalists.
I think that it would do Americans a lot of good to do some research on the history of their country.

Ironically, one of the greatest court decisions in the history of the US, Barron v.Baltimore, did not give us access to the BOR, but what it did say is that the BOR only applied to the Federal Government.
And now it is the only thing that stands in between America and tyranny.

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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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US bashing: Some Americans like to poop in their own nest and some Europeans, when they end up with China and Russia replacing the US will be crying in their beer. I will laugh.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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I expel my over abundant amount of beer, cabbage and broccoli induced flatulence in your direction.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Danbones
We get respect around the world generally to the extent that Americans wear Canadian flags
so they will be treated like Candians treat others...




You know how old that urban legend is?

During both WW-I and WW-II it was the "Canadian flag on duffel bags" story of returning soldiers, Then in the 50s, 60s and 70s it was "Canadian flags on luggage" of vacationers, Now it's the myth of the "backpack traveler". Meanwhile it's always somebody's Canadian cousin/friend or neighbor who was "Traveling with an American" where the American was not treated as well as...

I know myths dies hard.

I like the story about a group of internationals in Venice Italy riding in a gondola and when the gondolier asked where everybody was from the Canadian spoke up.

The gondolier said.

"Canada? oh,...Americas 52nd state"

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poor slayer wrong again I wasn't refering to an urban legand at all
as usual you can't back your self up

here is the news from the ground buddy

Carol, a friend whom I met through pariswoman, and who happens to be American as well, wears a Canadian Flag pin on her coat since she can't fake the British accent. It makes her feel safer in this climate of war and anti-Americanism. Another friend, Carolyn is worried that if President Bush is re-elected it could jeopardize the amount of projects available for her business. In other words, will she lose all her French clients? Will any of them want to continue working with her?

www.pariswoman.com...
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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:53 PM
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I know I am certainly not ashamed to be from America, although I was for some time after moving here. I had a bit of a crisis of conscience. Would people think I was stupid? Would they think I was racist? I used to not speak on tubes because I was ashamed and knew people would clock my accent. I knew others still who wore Canadian flags on their backpacks so as not to be recognised as an American. If a leftist like me feels this way,

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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 08:56 PM
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While I may find it amusing that Canadians love to wear their flag, what I take issue with is Americans…specifically, Americans who say they are Canadians. While playing poker at the casino later that same night, I was surrounded by two Americans, some Dutch, and some Iranians. The New Yorker to my left and I struck up a conversation and he mentioned that he never tells people he’s American. He always said Canadian. The world apparently hates Americans and he was afraid he would be on the wrong end of some good American bashing or kidnapping. Or maybe a beheading. He wasn’t quite sure what was going to happen but he was adamant that “the world hates America.

www.nomadicmatt.com...
I hope you don't mind me quoting actual Ameicans there Slayer ol buddy



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 09:01 PM
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Is it for unethical that Americans to wear Canadian flags when travelling?
...It is not unethical for whatever reason they choose to do it, but if it makes them feel safe then why not.

answers.yahoo.com...

it make them feel safe!
good ol bullet proof Maple leaf flag

I'm only half American Slayer
but I ain't shy to fly the flag

either the gen'ls battle flag
or the maple leaf
either or both gets respect



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 09:47 PM
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I'm ready with my tin foil hat in place and my gas mask on!


I should have been more specific in what I said. Therre is critisim to destroy (the nest messers) and political and social critism to make the country stronger and freer. Do you see the difference? I do. People have different motives and the sources of information for US attacks are not all looking to merely improve life in the US and in our foreign policy. Although I often despise what the elitists of our country is doing, I do still love my country enough to fight against what I don't like.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 10:45 PM
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Same old story regurgitated.


I'm sorry but if you cant recognize it for what it is then you are either naive or youngish

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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 10:53 PM
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You can call it a "story" but I have no doubt it's true that people do that. If I went to Europe or some other country personally and someone asked where I'm from, I myself would be sure to make a note that I am not represented by anyone in the government, and that I don't approve of the things they do. It's probably a "story" that's been around for decades because it's been true for decades. Canadians don't get the same bad rap for Vietnams and Iraqs and Afghanistans, because they aren't as known for going to those places, messing them up and raping their civilians as we have been in the past few decades, among lots of other things.

That's not "bashing," that's cold truth. When a government sponsors or enables those things, you're damned right people are going to want to hold them accountable for it, and even the people who in turn have allowed their government to do those things in the first place. What about that is unreasonable?



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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Seven Solo Female Travel Myths Debunked

I am convinced this is the woman traveling alone myth equivalent to “an American should sew a Canadian flag on their backpack” because you hear this bit of lore all the time. In actuality though I don’t know anyone who does this while traveling alone nor have I met someone who has. If you ever find yourself with an unwanted paramour, in most cases he will leave you alone once you explicitly tell them to. A story about a fake boyfriend can also be used in a pinch, which has the same effect a fake wedding band would have anyway.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 11:11 PM
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fauxnadian


Urban Dictionary

When someone who isn't Canadian
a) Celebrates a Canadian holiday to get off work (e.g. Canada Day)

b) Talks with a pseudo-Canadian accent (e.g. Minnesotans)

c) Pretends to be Canadian overseas to avoid the hassles of being an American (e.g. George Clooney's character in Syriana).



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 11:26 PM
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Symbols of Canada

It is also extremely fashionable for young people to sew a little fabric Maple Leaf flag to their backpack. They do this so that in case they ever bring their backpack to a foreign country, the local peoples will instantly be able to recognize them as being Canadian, and thus treat them nicely. Canadians live in a perpetual state of fear that they will be mistaken for Americans, so the Canada flag is seen as an important symbol in this respect. I don't know how true this is, but in Canada it's widely believed that when Americans travel to hostile nations they too will sew a Canadian flag to their backpack in an attempt to confuse the locals into treating them with more respect.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
Symbols of Canada

It is also extremely fashionable for young people to sew a little fabric Maple Leaf flag to their backpack. They do this so that in case they ever bring their backpack to a foreign country, the local peoples will instantly be able to recognize them as being Canadian, and thus treat them nicely. Canadians live in a perpetual state of fear that they will be mistaken for Americans, so the Canada flag is seen as an important symbol in this respect. I don't know how true this is, but in Canada it's widely believed that when Americans travel to hostile nations they too will sew a Canadian flag to their backpack in an attempt to confuse the locals into treating them with more respect.


"i don't know how true this is"
is proof of what?
lol
"In Canada its widely believed"
I was quoting Americans on the ground
I am suprised you missed that part

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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 11:41 PM
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Sorry, I'm with Slayer on this one. In all my travels, I've never once seen a American hiding behind the Canadian flag.



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 11:42 PM
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It's a self perpetuating myth Canadians like to repeat over and over again.
It's a joke outside of Canada...


Canadian Stereotypes and Misconceptions

Hey, I’m not a lumberjack, or a fur trader….
I don’t live in an igloo or eat blubber, or own a dogsled….
and I don’t know Jimmy, Sally or Suzy from Canada,
although I’m certain they’re really really nice.

I have a Prime Minister, not a president.
I speak English and French, not American.
And I pronounce it ‘about’, not ‘a boot’.

I can proudly sew my country’s flag on my backpack.
I believe in peace keeping, not policing,
diversity, not assimilation,

and that the beaver is a truly proud and noble animal.
A toque is a hat, a chesterfield is a couch,
and it is pronounced ‘zed’ not ‘zee’, ‘zed’ !!!!

Canada is the second largest landmass!
The first nation of hockey!
and the best part of North America

My name is Joe!!
And I am Canadian!!!



posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 11:49 PM
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In the end look at yourself.
You are a Canadian who wears an American Confederate flag as an Avatar!
How Ironic is that!


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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 11:55 PM
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Man, Slayer, this whole Americans wearing Canadian flags overseas thing really gets on your nerves doesn't it?

300 million or so people living in this country, and you don't think anyone actually does that when they go overseas to countries that aren't big fans of us?


It isn't hard to believe, it's just liable to hurt someone's pride when they have grand visions of this country, delusions, whatever your word of choice.

I prefer the rebel flag to either the US or Canadian flags as well.



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