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These "hard to swallow" parts will be the most refuted parts of the HH message.
Like :
How has no one refuted his claim that the earth is hollow.??
That Lucifer is not a single entity??
That abductions are done with help from the government??
Has no one refuted that 33rd degree Masons are introduced to Lucifer??
But, people pay attention to what they want, and have yet to discuss any of these controversial topics in depth
That abductions are done with help from the government??
If HH's scenario is true, then they do not seek to gain anything by us having a negative ascension, they only gain by having a negative ascension themself. Also, one might believe that this close to 2012, that they would have nothing to lose in having full disclosure. Perhaps the instructions on disclosure came from the supreme galactic council, and because so is above any possible malevolant intent
What if....until we are all like the Buddah who refused to enter heaven without everyone else....we are all remaining in service to self and dont know it?
if we are in service to our self, in the end of it all?
I thought that they were 4th density souls that chose to stay behind and help us ascend to 4th destiny also. When he talked about 6th destiny, I think he was talking about the final ascension to 6th destiny.
Originally posted by thedoctorswife
Ok this is where i get confused, he says that council of elders gave them permission to leave against Yahwehs will, however they felt the need to stay and fulfil their commitment to us and our progression. Surely yahweh would have been glad to see them leave and have us return to edenic paradise we once had, any thoughts anyone or am i missing something.
Originally posted by thedoctorswife
ok i need help understanding what i consider to be a contradiction in the HH text. Starting from the beginning, our group soul creator is Yahweh, theirs is lucifer, lucifer has ascended higher than Yahweh. Our planet was originally an edenic paradise, yahweh was unhappy that we werent progressing, and called upon group soul lucifer to offer us the catalyst, the knowledge of good and evil, he thought wed stay loyal to him and refuse it but we didnt. Ok this is where i get confused, he says that council of elders gave them permission to leave against Yahwehs will, however they felt the need to stay and fulfil their commitment to us and our progression. Surely yahweh would have been glad to see them leave and have us return to edenic paradise we once had, any thoughts anyone or am i missing something.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
What if....until we are all like the Buddah who refused to enter heaven without everyone else....we are all remaining in service to self and dont know it?
What if....life is just that, everything a way to measure, if we are truly ready to be in true service to 'all' or if we are in service to our self, in the end of it all?
Originally posted by polarwarrior
Without the negativity we may become complacent and content with our home in the fallen world, having little motivation to return.
Originally posted by ThreeDeuce
So, do you think we are in a neatively polarized world?
If this is so, is this because what we have done in our last world?
Originally posted by thedoctorswife
reply to post by LeoVirgo
The God of the old testament was a jealous possesive egotistical creature, i went to bed last night thinking about his command to Abraham to sacrifice his only son. I put myself in abrahams position, i would sacrifice myself to God because my faith in him is strong, but my child would not possibly be able to comprehend that trust, what sort of God would terrify a child with the prospect of impending death?
Originally posted by polarwarrior
Nah Lucifer is not a single entity, my understanding is that lucifer is a metaphorical personification of undivine forces and intelligence that are the result of the ignorant misuse of free will.
I wouldnt be thinking meeting lucifer is a handshake with a physical being... more likely a meditative or altered state style experience where they meet the bearer of the light/knowledge they have been recieving. Still its not such a profound experience as Lucifer is still a fallen part of the temporal illusory universe. The last words of the Bhudda before enlightenment were "Mara [or Lucifer], you do not exist."
I hope to be able to be present personally in the event that you are ever invited to progress beyond the 33rd Degree. I would like to be the one tasked with introducing you to Lucifer.
Originally posted by polarwarrior
The last words of the Bhudda before enlightenment were "Mara [or Lucifer], you do not exist."
Originally posted by thedoctorswife
Is this the biggest lie; ? that the church has turned lucifer into something he is not and never was.
Originally posted by thedoctorswife
Ok this is where i get confused, he says that council of elders gave them permission to leave against Yahwehs will, however they felt the need to stay and fulfil their commitment to us and our progression. Surely yahweh would have been glad to see them leave and have us return to edenic paradise we once had, any thoughts anyone or am i missing something.