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T.S.A. : Birth of A Monster, Coup Against American Rights, F.E.M.A. Started and D.A.R.P.A. Finished

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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by maybee
This chip thing reminds me of the biblical mark of the beast. It's really starting to get scary. I think there is definitely something going on that "they" are not telling us.


It should remind you of the Biblical Mark of the Beast because it is that exactly.

And the Internet is the backbone of communications for it to work.

Eventually the R.F.I.D. chip will link up to your cell phone, laptop, desktop, and Wi-Fi.

Of course they're not going to tell you as it is your responsibility as a citizen to follow-up on the actions that the Government commits in your name, because to be told everything you would need warehouses to store all of the information they influence, change, or re-write on a daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly basis, and we as citizens have to monitor everything that our Government does so we are properly informed citizens who know our country inside and out.




posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
It's so refreshing to see such a high quality thread.

Where will this preposterous nonsense end, or will it? Five year old children taking their shoes off, and preparing for the search? Their own employees? How long we will let them perpetrate these crimes against our privacy? We've become too dependent on air flight to ban it, and yet acquiesce will inevitably lead to another invasive implementation.

With every pat-down, the terrorists win. There's got to be a better way.


Well thank you very much.

It will never end if we as citizens do not keep up to date on what is happening.

Acquiescence is the last thing we should do.

No one should be dependent upon any means of travel.

Especially in the information age.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:34 PM
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reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


Yes, fear mongering. Your first post reads like a scared little boy. Worried about a big bad boogie man with his RFID chips. Have ye no faith?

Just read the majority of your topics. First this...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

...then this...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

...then this which reads like the OP but rehashed to push the fear of GPS devices...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

You are just scarred. Admit it.

You are trying to scare other people too, so they will do something about your own fears for you.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:35 PM
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I agree 100% with you on all of what you have shared.

Apathy runs deep and people slumber mentally due to ignorance.

Hit the airlines where it hurts absolutely the most.

In their ticket fares by going to other airlines that are less restrictive.

Call in an complain and demand your money back for abusive actions.

Write your local, county, state, and federal representatives without hostile intent.

Do it legally, do it non-violently, but just God-damned do it, period.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:40 PM
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reply to post by kokoro
 


Quite simply put?

Because they believe they have the right to do so.

When it happens they then have complete and total control.

If you speak out they can simply flip a switch and you're a person of interest.

Through the device implanted within your arm.

As well this device will be linked to everything you do.

Credit cards, Social Security Card, Drivers License, telephone, VIN Number.

Once that is implemented and you step out of line your R.F.I.D. chip can be turned off.

And you cannot work, cannot purchase food, and cannot even drive your car.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:52 PM
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reply to post by 46ACE
 


Your post reminds of a classic book.

Lord of the Flies (50th Anniversary Edition)




Amazon Review :

William Golding's classic tale about a group of English schoolboys who are plane-wrecked on a deserted island is just as chilling and relevant today as when it was first published in 1954.

At first, the stranded boys cooperate, attempting to gather food, make shelters, and maintain signal fires.

Overseeing their efforts are Ralph, "the boy with fair hair," and Piggy, Ralph's chubby, wisdom-dispensing sidekick whose thick spectacles come in handy for lighting fires.

Although Ralph tries to impose order and delegate responsibility, there are many in their number who would rather swim, play, or hunt the island's wild pig population.

Soon Ralph's rules are being ignored or challenged outright.

His fiercest antagonist is Jack, the redheaded leader of the pig hunters, who manages to lure away many of the boys to join his band of painted savages.

The situation deteriorates as the trappings of civilization continue to fall away, until Ralph discovers that instead of being hunters, he and Piggy have become the hunted:

"He forgot his words, his hunger and thirst, and became fear; hopeless fear on flying feet."

Golding's gripping novel explores the boundary between human reason and animal instinct, all on the brutal playing field of adolescent competition. --Jennifer Hubert


Great post.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:55 PM
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Scared and informed are two different things but in this case inter-related. If you are not scared, you are not paying attention.

edit on 20-11-2010 by WWJFKD because: spelling



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Chett
I haven't read all the comments yet but I will take issue with one bit of the OP. Its not really us that did it. I don't think you can hold people that are brainwashed and possibly drugged responsible to that level. The public education system - 12 years, 180 days a year - its a whole lot of brainwashing to get nice conforming people that play the game. Add a bit of fluoride and presto we all march to the beat.
Its does appear to be breaking down, one can only hope and do what one can.
Be the change you want to see.
Don't fly.


Unfortunately, I disagree with you, I do hold the citizens as responsible.

Through their ignorance, materialism, and being easily distracted by bread and circuses.

Brainwashing can be beaten if you're not compliant to begin with.

The public education system is only partially responsible through teaching recitation via rote.

We as citizens must educate ourselves, our children, and our country.

On how not to remain in the dark about what is done in our names.

I am the change I want to see and not flying is not the only answer.

Taking decisive, legal, and non-violent action is a necessity.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:04 PM
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reply to post by esdad71
 


You are correct that flying is a consumable product.

However, a corporation cannot infringe upon our Civil Liberties, just as one man cannot.

It is an infringement upon our rights through a corporation assisting the Government.

It is using a secondary system, the airports system, to enforce a Federal mandate.

No connection to 9/11?

Excuse me while I laugh.

The T.S.A. could not have been born without 9/11 so they are tied together at the hip.

Of course it's all about the money, follow the money trail, always follow the money.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:04 PM
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In the interest of National Security, I believe we should hire TSA agents to also do this to every single person who crosses our borders. I mean, if we're going to go there....let's go there.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 

Extremely well done thread.
I am responding to this particular reply because it addresses the very nature of the problem. The "we" doesn't really exist. There is no "we the people".
Too many of us want to control others, and too many of us will happily (or grudgingly) submit to others out of fear.
Truthfully, those of us that know what is going on need to do more. We have to be willing to sacrifice more than a little time on the internet.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:07 PM
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I patiently away your thoughts.

Just below my avatar is a drop-down menu.

Seeing you're from Oz you're welcome on my friends list anytime.

Consider yourself added to mine.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:14 PM
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Do not forget to utilize all of your resources.

Security and Exchange Commission

Most people miss using their own Governments papertrail.

I cannot wait to hear what you find when you dig it up.

Whether it is tied to the Republicans, Democrats, G.O.P., or a Liberal agenda remember one thing.

It is only one side of the coin because the other side has their function and agenda.

That ties into this one nicely to infringe upon our rights.

reply to post by rusethorcain
 


Of course Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld gained from 9/11.

Truth and Lies of 9/11 : Mike Ruppert, C.I.A. Drug Running, and Your Government

Cronyism is defined by special interests coming together and abusing power during disaster.

It does not stop with either Bush Administration.

It continues through the Obama Administration and into the next one.
edit on 11/20/10 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight To The Post.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by die_another_day
In a way, this is illegal because it's a Tying Contract.

The Clayton act said it was illegal to force you to buy one thing so you can buy something else.

We are being forced to go through these screenings, and if we don't get this "Product" we can't get on planes.


Referring to this are you?


Quote from : Wikipedia : Clayton Antitrust Act

The Clayton Antitrust Act of 1914 (Pub.L. 63-212, 38 Stat. 730, enacted October 15, 1914, codified at 15 U.S.C. § 12–27, 29 U.S.C. § 52–53), was enacted in the United States to add further substance to the U.S. antitrust law regime by seeking to prevent anticompetitive practices in their incipiency.

That regime started with the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890, the first Federal law outlawing practices considered harmful to consumers (monopolies and cartels).

The Clayton act specified particular prohibited conduct, the three-level enforcement scheme, the exemptions, and the remedial measures.

Passed during the Wilson administration, the legislation was first introduced by Alabama Democrat Henry De Lamar Clayton, Jr. in the U.S. House of Representatives, where the act passed by a vote of 277 to 54 on June 5, 1914.

Though the Senate passed its own version on September 2, 1914 by a vote of 46-16, the final version of the law (written after deliberation between Senate and the House), did not pass the Senate until October 5 and the House until October 8 of the same year.

Like the Sherman Act, much of the substance of the Clayton Act has been developed and animated by the U.S. courts, particularly the Supreme Court.


Good eye.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:36 PM
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reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 

Greetings,

I don't mean to "Jump the Shark" here or denigrate your thread in any way, shape or form...but there are a couple questions I would like to ask that you consider:

1.) Have you done any research on Self-Assembling Nanotechnology??

2.) In this "thread" I did a page by page search for the term "Morgellons" which from what I understand is the symptoms of a persons body rejecting the Self-Assembling Nanotechnology--these people would seem to be the "canaries in the mine" so to speak.

The "VeriChip" aspect of this thread seemed "dated" which is why I posed the above questions....the psychological aspect that you posed seemed spot on as far as I am concerned which follows the "Hegelian Dialectic"

en.wikipedia.org...

Thanks!



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by TWILITE22
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 
I have one question "How many terrorist incidents involving planes have there been in the U.S to justify this kind of security"?I speaking of the ones that our government hasn't been involved in.I know my memory isn't what it used to be but I can't really think of any that our own government wasn't involved.........help!


Whether through complicit, tacit, or negligent means our Government was involved.

I have a better question for you which need answering and no one seems to know.

Of the 19 individuals who hi-jacked those planes on 9/11 how many were Saudi nationals?

Yet not one squeak from our Federal Government saying anything to the House of Saud?

Are our interests tied too close or were these individuals offered up as cut-outs?

We all know that the Bush family is tied to the Al Saud family like twins.

Because of oil, money, and the elitism within both families.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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What I am mostly worried about is the radiation exposure dangers that the scanning technology presents.

There is no greater invasion of your privacy and right to life, than to be bombarded with radiation and not even realize you are being slowly destroyed. So many potential issues could arise, such as various types of cancers, the degredation or breakdown of our molecular integrity, or other possibilities.

Just for the record, I always say this about scanning technology that bombards you with radiation.

My mantra is this, that I will avoid all scanners if I possibly can, even abstract things like Computed Topography or Magnetic Resonance Imaging, all the way to X-ray Scanners.

X-Rays in particular. Why do dentists and doctors always run behnid a HUGE LEAD CURTAIN when they take X-ray shots of you?? Exactly, because it's clearly dangerous to be in the way of that radiation.

Now I know people say, having a few shots is ok, but what are the cancer rates in our society again? Oh yeah super high, higher than ever in our history in fact. So maybe if we put 2+2 togeather, we will realize that having X-rays taken all the time is extremely dangerous to our biological integrity. I don't want my molecular structure to degrade or break down or mutate.

The smoking gun is the fact they hide behind a lead curtain to protect themselves from ionizing radiation.

Let's do some basic research on Ionizing Radiation for fun.

From the article I am linking is this juicy tidbit.


Ionizing radiation consists of subatomic particles or electromagnetic waves energetic enough to detach electrons from atoms or molecules, thus ionizing them


Detaching electrons from atoms/molecules causes the molecule to change drastically in many cases. Apparently the electrons which rotate around the nucleus of the atom are responsible for all chemical reactions that we observe. Therefore, losing an electron can cause a complex molecule to break down, causing Bonds to break and portions of the molecule separate and become base molecules depending on the composition of said molecule.

In simple terms, it can cause the actual building blocks that you are made out of, to break down and decompose. This is extremely dangerous and therefore I am highly concerned about the way these types of scanning technologies are proliferating worldwide in all types of innoculus places. They are becoming ubiquitous pretty much. This is very concerning for the overall health of the general population.

Hey maybe it's part of the overall cancer conspiracy? To make us really ill than give us "treatments" that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Point is, I'd rather take a patdown groping any day over getting radiated and potentially harmed in ways I can't even fathom.

This is my take on the current developments, in particular the ongoing controversy over the new scanning technology being implemented by the TSA and many other organizations worldwide currently.

Btw I have flagged this thread and have been telling other people I know about the information contained within. So thank you for bringing this up SKL.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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The media has not told us the truth since the Vietnam War due to illegitimate allegiances.

They used to tell us the truth and now it is nothing more than a money-making scheme.

Selling lies, horror stories, and Government based propaganda.

I can only speak for myself as I want the flat out truth and nothing more.

Unfortunately, Government, media, and other people do not know what that is, the truth.

Suffice it to say, the truth is usually the first victim, the second ally, and the last to be unburied.

Corporate cronyism, special interest groups, and lobbyists are taking over America.

We are soon to lose it if we do not wake the Hell up and do something positive.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Section31
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Do you know how to get rid of the TSA? Stop using public transportation all together. If enough people stop using planes, trains, and buses, the companies that own them will go out of business. Instead of turning America into a green society, just use your car (or car-pool) instead of public transportation. Maybe they will change their tune if the money starts to evaporate.


edit on 20-11-2010 by Section31 because: (no reason given)


While you are certainly correct, stopping using public transportation, will eliminate the T.S.A., unfortunately not many of us can pull out our wallets and charter a flight through a private corporation too small to concern the Federal Government.

They will change their tune if we refuse to fly.

But just how many American citizens do you think will actually do that?

Not many I guarantee.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 09:42 PM
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Your post makes me think of the old adage.

A man cannot see the forest for the trees.

Very few people know how to look at the bigger picture.

They look instead at their own minimalistic world.

And then forget the rest of world until they run smack dab into it.



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