Originally posted by Freenrgy2
Originally posted by SaturnFX
bible studies with my tax dollars? I think not...thats what church sunday schools or private schools are for.
Would you allow your tax dollars to fund a prayer room in the school for Muslim students? How about a seperate building but still on the school
Not by my choice, no.
Technically we are also allowed slaves if we use the non-amended constitution..amendments have altered the constitution. Technically, she is a
Somehow this argument always comes down to the slaves. Thank God we amended the Consitution to right a GREAT wrong.
Agreed, and also made sure there is no government establishment of religion...which is the point of this entire thread. Glad your on board
Then you agree I am right that students should be also taught every single theory anyone can come up with to explain how we are here, be it
evolution, creationism, dream matrix, the great tree, hyperdimensional impressions, illusionary universe, etc etc etc.
I believe the mainstream theories should be taught at the junior high/high school level. What you describe would be well-taught at the college level
in a religious studies or philosophy class where liberal thought is the norm.
Ahh, the mainstream theories...and who defines mainstream? How about just the practicing religion..why should islam be taught, but not judism simply
because there are more muslims in the world than jews?
So, practicing religion...ok...great, here is the list
Wiki List of Religions in the world
Of course don't include the polytheistic religions...because that stuff is just silly...many gods in a council creating the world...everyone KNOWS it
is a single godhead acting like cosmic emperor...
and THAT is the actual problem..
how do you even teach it? how can you possibly teach such a thing.
No evidence, just speculation and some old books from cavemen to build an argument..thats it.
you honestly think that deserves the same timeframe as a scientific discussion showing mountains of evidence on evolution?
You present it the same way the THEORY of EVOLUTION is presented. Mountains of evidence so far, has not equated to SCIENTIFIC FACT which would prove
When teaching evolution, they present pictures of fossils, of skeletons, of dna structure, of variations of temperature, of a clear line of life going
from single celled amoeba's to present day man and pretty much every step in between.
Explain the counter to this in intelligent design in regards to evidence...gonna produce a piece of toast with the likeness of christ in it or
something? Explain the evidence that could be presented that does not support evolution when in context?
And then the philosophy comes up in a science class (philosophy and science should never mix.)
Well, who created the creators? well, it must all be magic then. bah.
And we shouldn't teach kids to think or ask questions, right? We should just indoctrinate them to what WE believe the truth to be?
Its a strawman argument.
First, suggest aliens made things...ok
then, while on that unsubstantiated claim, and while they are distracted with that, make them ponder where they came from...suddenly, you have a base
to introduce the magic man that created the whole lot, and since he created the aliens, he probably created us also...case closed.
How about this...we keep science in the science classroom, and keep philosophy in the philosophy classroom.
Should any religion produce scientific evidence, then sure...introduce it into the science classroom...but until then, keep it in its place, which is
any other fantasy and wild claim that took root in ancient societies enough to influence our civilization...just leave it out of science class.
It means she has been thinking about just that...and why do people think about it to begin with? She read the constitution and took notes that
there was no wording in the original document..why...think for just a half second why someone would seek out that whom is also seeking power to
rule..not some academic curiousity, but a subject matter that is literally running her life as she quests for power over the masses.
time to engage in critical thinking.
Scare tactics....yep, it must be election time.
Why would Obama leave out "endowed by their CREATOR" in TWO seperate presentations? Should I apply your logic to why Obama would purposely OMIT
wording included in our Constitution? At least she didn't omit, she simply stated what wasn't there.
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Good point, I am glad Obama may indeed not be lead around by invisible deitys whispering in his ear on how he should use his powers...I can only hope
it wasn't a slip-up but rather a showing of who he truely is...someone whom does not believe God will step in and save everyone if we screw things
A president seeing us personally responsible for us...how refreshing..I wish he could simply come out and state it though...but meh, the chimps would
freak out if they found out we had a potential athiest president.
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