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Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Quadrivium
Your entire argument is completely flawed by the simple fact that humans have free will. What you people who are touting how evil and corrupt and awful Islam is seem to forget is that humans have free will. For some reason you think that no Muslim has any free will at all.
Strange you would think that.
KORAN promises of houris in heaven:
Single-minded slaves of Allah... will be honored in the Gardens of delight, on couches facing one another; A cup from a gushing spring is brought round for them, white, delicious to the drinkers, wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. And with them are those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, pure as they were hidden eggs. - Surah 37:40-49
Lo, for those who ward off evil is a happy journey's end, Gardens of Eden, whereof the gates are opened for the, wherein, reclining, they call for plenteous fruit and cool drink therein. And with them are those of modest gaze, companions. This it is that ye are promised for the Day of Reckoning. - 38:50-54
Lo! Those who kept their duty will be in a place secure, amid gardens and water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another.... And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes. They call therein for every fruit in safety. They taste not death therein, save the first death. And He hath saved them from the doom of hell, a bounty from thy Lord. That is the supreme triumph. - 44:51-57
Lo! Those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight... reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes... and we provide them with fruit and meat such as they desire.... - 52:17-22
...Reclining upon couches lined with silk brocade, the fruit of both the gardens near to hand.... Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.... - 55:54-56
Those are they who will be brought nigh, in gardens of delight... reclining therein face to face. There wait on them immortal youths... and fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, like unto hidden pearls, reward for what they used to do.... Lo! We have created them a creation, and made them virgins, lovers, friends. - 56:11-37
(Different translation) Companions with beautiful, big and lustrous eyes... virgin-pure and undefiled.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by fonenyc
i'm not sure you realize how the dialectic has screwed with your brain, but let me show you what i mean. you said:
Muslim, Jew and Christian alike are all to blame
and THEN said:
People shouldnt be judged on their faith, color or country's political policy toward the world market but rather by their character alone through their actions individually.
Sorry but I do not see your point
Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck; all have no business being on TV.
Originally posted by skeptic_al
I dunno about Sean, but Bill and Glenn make their living by telling people exactly
what they want to hear, rather than report the actual news or facts.
Instrad of preaching Muslims did 9/11, he should be preaching Arabs did 9/11 as
most Arabs are Muslim. Mmm, So why would Arabs be so angry at Americans I wonder,
that's the money question.
Originally posted by WeAreAWAKE
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by nightbringr
But neither of those are valid arguments. Muslims did not attack us, Extremists attacked us.
Lets be honest here for a moment. Logical, factual, etc. MUSLIM EXTREMISTS attacked us. They are both Muslim and Extremists. That doesn't mean all Muslims are extremists, nor does it mean all extremists are Muslims. But be truthful. Muslim extremists killed thousands of Americans and will continue to kill Americans when and where they can. They need to be stopped, and to stop them, you must realize who they are.
Then what was your point of posting selected verses from the Quran with little or no commentary as to the intent of your posting them?
Those verses mean nothing taken out of context. Apply all the verses of the Koran in all possible interpretations simultaneously, then we can discuss what they mean , if not then you are actively being a proponent of partial logic devoid of all variables and dismissing pertinent facts.
Have a pleasant day Quadrivium,
ET
On a totally unrelated note:
I think it is a testament to the tolerance levels of ATS Staff to permit special needs users onto ATS. Even the developmentally disabled deserve to have access.
yes it is flawed.
The reason it's flawed is because you can do the exact same thing with the Bible or the Torah.
Originally posted by christinaV
reply to post by nightbringr
70% of americans are against the mosque??? i was never polled about this, and nobody i know told me they were ever polled about this. where did he get this fact from? a poll on his website?