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Now this one I will answer. I called you a misogynist so please quote me correctly.
You can state that the feminist movement "programmed" me to think that a father has an obligation to his children. Funny that. It's a concept that predates feminism by a few thousand years. But, hey, bending facts to make yourself look or feel correct is an understandable shortcoming.
My view of reality is quite accurate in this case.
I am dealing in realities.
You are harping about your conceptions of fairness.
Your view is actually atypical of people in this day and age in that it tends to reflect what YOU want, what YOU desire, and what YOU believe to be right.
It does not, however factor in the greater good or the needs of others. Count yourself proud amongst the MTV generation. You represent them to a T.
Where is MY gold star? I raised two kids for five years alone. I guess only gold stars for parents who did right AND agree with you?
Originally posted by mayertuck
Originally posted by SeenMyShare
I can only supply my own thoughts to this topic as they relate to me.
When my son's father sent his first $15 check and no more I decided then and there that I would provide for my son. I asked no one for help (including his father) and did what I had to do. I worked construction, I worked a sewing factory job, I babysat, I cleaned motels, and I became an auto mechanic. I did whatever job I had to do to make sure my son ate, had a roof and warm bed, had clothing and hot and cold running water.
I've done the same for my step son when his parents wouldn't stand up.
Amen and I am glad you did what you had to. It is sad he didn't step up. But you took responsibility for your choices and I commend you for that. Gold star.
Supporting your spawn is not something that is over and above what is expected, it IS what is expected at the basest level.
Originally posted by Edrick
Oh, for the love of...
Misogyny: Hatred of women.
You call me a Misogynist = You call me a Woman Hater.
It is the WORD'S DEFINITION.
If you don't know what the word MEANS, then you shouldn't waive it around like a kid that has found its dad's Gun.
Originally posted by Edrick
And You can state that Women Should be allowed into the Workforce, Voting Rights, Etc... It's a concept that Goes *AGAINST* this "Historic" concept that you are using to Justify your perspective.. but Hey...
We all have to pick something... I guess you like picking Cherries.
Originally posted by Edrick
I am harping about *LEGAL EQUALITY*
Originally posted by Edrick
Stick to the topic.
Originally posted by Edrick
Oh, the world is America, eh?
Originally posted by Edrick
I distinctly remember MTV Pushing Women's "Rights" issues...
So, by that metric.... you are so CRAZY FREAKING WRONG that it baffles me.
Originally posted by Hefficide
Men already have reproductive rights.
They have the right to keep their pants zipped if they can't step up to the plate.
Definition or not, using quotation marks denotes a quote. Stick with the program.
Quotation marks or inverted commas (informally referred to as quotes and speech marks) are punctuation marks used in pairs to set off speech, a quotation, a phrase, or a word.
Oh, and an interesting little faux paus on your behalf - a child is an "it"?
Wow way to bend what I've said, historical accuracy, and the topic of the thread. You get bonus points for this one.
No you are ranting about abortion and seeking to create a false equity in response to your personal distaste for the practice. I've explained, over and over, the fact that refusing to support a child /= the preterm abortion of a child. Rather than acknowledge this obvious and simple fact, you continue to obfuscate.
Again with the words in my mouth. You really need to learn some new tricks. The two you know are tiresome.
And yet you've managed to include MTV in your list of apparent feminist plots. So you have been influenced by it.
Originally posted by Edrick
reply to post by hotbakedtater
Supporting your spawn is not something that is over and above what is expected, it IS what is expected at the basest level.
And this does not apply to Abortion.... How exactly?
(Second line is Curt)
-Edrick
Historically women have always worked as hard as the men.
Harder when historically women have also shouldered the childcare duties in addition to the other duties she has historically performed.
Remember pioneer women?
Heard of prehistoric peoples?
Hard work is not always defined by sweat.
She sure does have that right.
Originally posted by OceanStone
Originally posted by Hefficide
Men already have reproductive rights.
They have the right to keep their pants zipped if they can't step up to the plate.
The same could be said about the woman.
It directly relates to the Original Post and the original topic, which is the premise upon which I am debating.
Was it supposed to relate to abortion?
I actually tacked on Pioneer to denote era, for reference.
Exactly what are you dealing with Edrick?
Originally posted by Edrick
reply to post by hotbakedtater
I actually tacked on Pioneer to denote era, for reference.
So, then your entire post was meaningless....
Understood, now I know what I am dealing with.
Thank you.
-Edrick
Exactly what are you dealing with Edrick?
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
Where is MY gold star? I raised two kids for five years alone. I guess only gold stars for parents who did right AND agree with you?
Why are gold stars being handed out for fufilling responsibility and duty, anyway?
Supporting your spawn is not something that is over and above what is expected, it IS what is expected at the basest level.
And I think this also goes to the heart of some things.
Do men/women who raise their kids from "bad" mom/dadss somehow feel they deserve a gold star for doing so?