Obama Birth Certificate; 'Document allegedly obtained in Kenya sent to every member of Congress', page 2
reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 12:36 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by abecedarian
LOL.
Transparency, as in there is no substance. It is very easy to be transparent when the government is so broken that nothing is getting done anyway. No need for smoke and mirrors while the Beautiful, Articulate magicians assistant is in front of a teleprompter with 25 cameras pointing right at him. The Magician could be dancing naked in the background sticking his tongue out at us and the majority of the population would never notice.
LOL.
Transparency, as in there is no substance. It is very easy to be transparent when the government is so broken that nothing is getting done anyway. No need for smoke and mirrors while the Beautiful, Articulate magicians assistant is in front of a teleprompter with 25 cameras pointing right at him. The Magician could be dancing naked in the background sticking his tongue out at us and the majority of the population would never notice.
reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 12:55 PM by centurion1211
Originally posted by lpowell0627
reply to post by texastig
If Hillary knew, if anyone knew, they could not have exposed it without revealing a ton of corruption, secrets, etc., of their own party!
This is exactly true.
Recall that the Clinton "closet" is practically overflowing with skeletons. All it would have taken is one meeting or phone call with the threat to expose all the Clinton corruption (and even murders?) to shut Hillary up.
reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 01:08 PM by abecedarian
reply to post by cindyremains
The media shills you mention are not being vocal about it because "a" they have to maintain a shred of common sense which requires not becoming extremist and "b" there is enough doubt in either direction to render the question a somewhat moot point until someone can in fact come up with the smoking gun for one side or the other... and there may be the issue: there is no smoking gun support for either side.
The media shills you mention are not being vocal about it because "a" they have to maintain a shred of common sense which requires not becoming extremist and "b" there is enough doubt in either direction to render the question a somewhat moot point until someone can in fact come up with the smoking gun for one side or the other... and there may be the issue: there is no smoking gun support for either side.
reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 01:09 PM by sheepslayer247
reply to post by cindyremains
I think what you need to understand is that much of the information many of us seek to know about Obama is being suppressed. The information we do receive is at best questionable. A birth certificate, in its original form, is easy for all of us to obtain in the US. Why is it that Obama's BC was exactly like Hawaii's current BC forms, not like the BC's in the 1960's?
There are many questions that remain unanswered and could be easily cleared up. That secrecy is why people are still bringing this issue up. The information the MSM feeds us may be good enough evidence as proof in your eyes, but to a community of skeptics that know better....this issue doesn't have anywhere near the evidence to prove his eligability; or lack thereof.
I think what you need to understand is that much of the information many of us seek to know about Obama is being suppressed. The information we do receive is at best questionable. A birth certificate, in its original form, is easy for all of us to obtain in the US. Why is it that Obama's BC was exactly like Hawaii's current BC forms, not like the BC's in the 1960's?
There are many questions that remain unanswered and could be easily cleared up. That secrecy is why people are still bringing this issue up. The information the MSM feeds us may be good enough evidence as proof in your eyes, but to a community of skeptics that know better....this issue doesn't have anywhere near the evidence to prove his eligability; or lack thereof.
reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 01:10 PM by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by wcitizen
What bothers me more about the information in this article is the list of files relating to Obama's background which have been 'closed', and that this fact is known to the public.
Yeah, doesn't that pesky Fourth Amendment just piss you off!?! Grrrr!
How dare a US citizen keep his private papers private! Makes me SO mad! 
This man promised TRANSPARENCY.
And then proceeded to post his birth certificate on the Internet for the world to see! How dare he!
What also bothers me is that it's not just America which is being affected by this, it's the world, and it seems so many of the American people just don't care, and won't care until something impinges on them personally, by which time it will most probably be too late.
Ironic that you should talk about something affecting people directly. If someone - anyone - were demanding that YOU release ALL your personal, private papers for all the world to see... I wonder how much you'd stand up for your right to privacy then. But as long as it's not affecting you, you're all for violating someone else's privacy rights...
reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 01:13 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by cindyremains
Your point? Yes, I believe there is something to the Loch Ness monster story. Are you really denying there is anything to one of the largest religions in the world with the Mohammed example? Chupacabra? Why not? Something unexplained happens to livestock every so often.
Yes, every persistent story out there probably persists, because it has just enough truth in it. With Obama, there is surely just enough truth to make sure the story will never go away.
Now, I agree that at this point it is a waste of time to continue beating the dead chariot he was delivered in, and we should just try to hold on for another 2 years without any major damage, but that doesn't mean there is nothing to the story.
As for the newspapers in Hawaii, they never quoted anything that wasn't already known and insufficient. The governor's opinion and the short-form certificate are not sufficient as evidence.
Guess what? The story of the Loch Ness monster won't go away either. Must be something to it? The story of Muhamed will not go away, there must be something to that. The stories about the chupacabra will not go away
Your point? Yes, I believe there is something to the Loch Ness monster story. Are you really denying there is anything to one of the largest religions in the world with the Mohammed example? Chupacabra? Why not? Something unexplained happens to livestock every so often.
Yes, every persistent story out there probably persists, because it has just enough truth in it. With Obama, there is surely just enough truth to make sure the story will never go away.
Now, I agree that at this point it is a waste of time to continue beating the dead chariot he was delivered in, and we should just try to hold on for another 2 years without any major damage, but that doesn't mean there is nothing to the story.
As for the newspapers in Hawaii, they never quoted anything that wasn't already known and insufficient. The governor's opinion and the short-form certificate are not sufficient as evidence.
reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 01:16 PM by abecedarian
reply to post by Retseh
Your post is a non-issue. Hawai'i allowed children not born in Hawai'i to receive a birth certificate under certain circumstances. This, by itself, allows resonable doubt with regards to BO's status.
You either get it, or you don't, and if the latter is correct, the principals under which the USA was formed are themselves threatened.
Your post is a non-issue. Hawai'i allowed children not born in Hawai'i to receive a birth certificate under certain circumstances. This, by itself, allows resonable doubt with regards to BO's status.
You either get it, or you don't, and if the latter is correct, the principals under which the USA was formed are themselves threatened.
reply posted on 7-9-2010 @ 01:19 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by cindyremains
That is against T&C. Otherwise no problem.
When I went to work for the State, I provided a certified copy of my birth certificate and SS card, along with fingerprints, and a list of my last 15 years worth of addresses and references. They did a thorough background check, and they decided I was legitimate enough to make $30,000 per year and have a little bit of decision making responsibility.
I would assume that to be President, you should have at least the same amount of documentation, and a "short-form" certificate of birth that can be easily obtained by presenting them a document from almost anywhere would not be sufficient for me in my current position.
Many, many positions require more than a short-form birth document. Surely we can require the utmost scrutiny of the most powerful position in the world? Plus, if it exists, then what is the problem with sharing it? He already shared the short form, why not the long form? If it doesn't exist, and there is a good reason, why not admit it doesn't exist and give a decent explanation as to why it doesn't exist?
That is against T&C. Otherwise no problem.
When I went to work for the State, I provided a certified copy of my birth certificate and SS card, along with fingerprints, and a list of my last 15 years worth of addresses and references. They did a thorough background check, and they decided I was legitimate enough to make $30,000 per year and have a little bit of decision making responsibility.
I would assume that to be President, you should have at least the same amount of documentation, and a "short-form" certificate of birth that can be easily obtained by presenting them a document from almost anywhere would not be sufficient for me in my current position.
Many, many positions require more than a short-form birth document. Surely we can require the utmost scrutiny of the most powerful position in the world? Plus, if it exists, then what is the problem with sharing it? He already shared the short form, why not the long form? If it doesn't exist, and there is a good reason, why not admit it doesn't exist and give a decent explanation as to why it doesn't exist?
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