Originally posted by namehere
Originally posted by muppet
Screening and mandatory treatment are dangerous solutions though.
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Yes, most of the report seems to mean well, but the danger is in the details.
...there is no danger of abuse here that i can see.
Many Americans, like their leaders, have
noble intentions and lofty
ideals.
It seems somehow perverse
to suggest that these could be abused...
Originally posted by chakra blue
it can be accomplished the same way they accomplish everything. start with a generation at birth.
free federal screening for "defective genes" if you will.
perhaps encourage abortion, leading to further reduction in poulation.
yep, in forty years, DONE
Absolutely effective if Government legislated.
For
good examples of federally mandated mental health care,
look no further than
Germany.
The results of
government organized eugenics for mental health problems
led to a dramatic improvement in the behaviour of German society in general.
After all, what use is government power if not
to impose uniformed discipline?
Those who dissent this wisdom
can be viewed as needing mental health review...
As the enlightened Skadi_the_Evil_Elf reveals:
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
The key here, folks, the keyword, is CONSUMER.
Let us remember, this is a NEO Con Bush, a friend to the allmighty drug companies. What I think this will develop into? Govornment as ultimate drug
pusher.
Look how many times the word "consumer" is mentioned. Not people, not patients, CONSUMER. ...
...Im ok, its everyone else on this #hole planets thats out of thier #ing minds.
'Red Flag' material if there ever was such a thing:
The word 'CONSUMER' exposes a corporate mentality oozing into cocktails of legislation.
They didn't even bother wiping away their slime-trail.
Originally posted by Relentless
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Its pretty obvious what this is. I have had to deal with depression before, debilitating depression, and the more drugs that were pushed on me, the
worse it got. ...
... Womens complaints are often treated like mental illness, sicne docotors dont take them seriously. The key word in this whole thing is CONSUMER.
.... Your complaints are valid. They stem however from the current lack of access and information to proper healthcare options, sometimes even
incompetence, but not a conspiracy of the government.
The difference between 'lack of access' and coerced participation
is where best intentions succumb to manipulations.
This illustrates how most of the American sheeple are blissfully unaware that
this is precisely how the Nazi Germany started down the path to genocide.
It doesn't begin as a 'government conspiracy' -
it begins as piracy of cons fleecing an incompetent government.
Nazis fed upon a government mandate to vanquish the ills of society.
Democraticly elected, as controversially as Bush,
Hitler
staffed an unelected bureaucracy to implement increasingly popular
programs to terminally eliminate every instance of non-conformity.
There is never an overt conspiracy,
merely an under-appreciated re-orientation of fundamental perspectives.
Step1: spread a half-truth
'People need to be looked after, they are unable to fend for themselves.'
This is bread and butter to those who want to control you.
Control freaks span the spectrum, from communist to liberal to NeoCon -
- they all want you to believe that they are legislating to 'protect the weak'.
The truth is they need your initial support to establish a legislative toehold.
Step2: propose a
'government solution'
'Our profession can provide the expertise to address the problem. Empower us.'
Every problem needs a solution, and these folks need your help to enforce it.
They sidestep the issue of why government intervention is necessary.
They then proceed to paint the issue as a responsibility of government.
Step3: Use official acceptance to
institutionalize as a government authority.
'As duly authorized by... ..., law enforcement can summoned to ensure compliance'
Originally posted by Relentless
...Personally, on this one I don't care who pays for it....
Precisely a point that attracts the sharks of industry to the feeding grounds of government.
Taxation can be adjusted, and, with proper medication,
so can attitudes toward paying higher taxes to remedy your attitudes.
Of course, if you don't care in the beginning,
you certainly won't care when it ends either.
And if you happen to grow concerned about anything you shouldn't,
there will be medical professionals to help you regain your proper attitudes.
All Free of Charge, mind you...
Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
As Marg, I think, stated earlier more and more children with behaviour problems are being drugged to control them. I think this is the direction our
government is headed. Of course, with the aid of drug companies and endless commercials and ads for an endless number of new drugs. Some of which
are pushed through and may not be totally tested---can anyone here say "guinea pig" 
Reminds me of the song "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane
So, they will start this with the youth of our country. By the time they reach maturity, a large part of the population will be controlled one way or
another.
I'm not saying we will lose our free will, ...
We can not lose our free will if we have already abandoned it.
The corporates found what was left of our 'free will' tossed in a back room in Congress.
They are busy fabricating a marketable substitute for it...
Yesterday's news, for example, where does one start?
These are the folks you are considering entrusting with enforceable "care"
From
Doctor Jailed for Billing for Sex
Reuters - Mon Jun 21, 8:11 AM ET
An Oregon doctor, who had sex with a patient and then charged the state about $5,000 for his "treatments," has been jailed for 60 days and stripped
of his license, officials said on Friday.
And of course, with new authority given by the feds,
he could continue his career without a glitch.
A quick search on this topic alone with keep a reader busy for years,
as there are thousands of articles about how medical practitioners
seem to have problems when it comes to their own attitudes and behaviour.
If we give these folks the power to determine our attitudes,
then we might as well get preparatory rape counselling.
From
Tragic teen suicides inspire idea that invites more
USATODAY.com - Mon Jun 21, 6:50 AM ET
In heart-wrenching testimony before federal drug regulators last February, parent after parent related how their teens had committed suicide after
taking prescription antidepressants. In one case, a father told of how his 17-year-old hanged herself after seven days on Zoloft, which her doctor had
stressed was safe.
These are the same kind of people sought to address your mental illnesses.
Who knows what else they might care to define as mental illness? Dissent, perhaps?
And then, my favorite quote:
Originally posted by SkipShipman
Screen our leaders first
Maybe they are the only ones who need to be screened.
A perfect solution!
Anyone working for or employed by the Federal or State government
is required henceforth to prove the following:
competence
maturity
integrity
honesty
intelligence
before reporting to work. Weekly, if necessary.
No need to screen the population, just screen the 'leaders'.
Originally posted by jrod
Everyone should be screened for health problems....
The first
subjects Consumers of screening should be all
subjects Consumers who support mandatory screening.
The first screenings should be a mental health examination
to specificly ensure that
subjects Consumers who support mandatory screening
do not have any delusions about how well government programs are implemented.
As necessary,
subjects Consumers should be
quarantined, physically restrained and sedated in order to ensure
that necessary courses of medication are run to completion.
Additional psychological reprogramming can be arranged to ensure that
subjects Consumers are successfully re-integrated into the
appropriate demographic support population.
...Quarantine, sedate, Medicate. repeat as necessary.
Just like the nice work achieved by
mandatory AIDS treatment for children.
The judge asked her how she got the kids to take the drugs. And she said “We’re like Nazis when it comes to compliance.” Those were her
words.
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[edit on 2004-7-7 by Teknik]
